Zimbabwe - soldiers go hungry

#2
Are these not the soldiers that have helped make the country what it is now?
 
#3
Ho ho. I know this isn't good news for the soldiers but this is worse news for Mugabe. If he can't keep the army happy, he isn't going to last much longer.

The worrying thing is, could this end with a military coup, rather than Tsvangirai, getting in? Zim needs international assistance (read finance) and the only way it is going to get it is if there is a legitimate democratic lead in the country.
 
#4
They are indeed. And they are the soldiers who enforced a Free Vote on the populace at the last couple of elections. "Free" as in "ZANU-PF", of course. Sadly, the ZANU-Labour thinkers in the West believe that they're victims, and should be the recipients of Aid.
 

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#5
Whiskybreath said:
They are indeed. And they are the soldiers who enforced a Free Vote on the populace at the last couple of elections. "Free" as in "ZANU-PF", of course. Sadly, the ZANU-Labour thinkers in the West believe that they're victims, and should be the recipients of Aid.
As you know WB, the majority already have been - but in the plural.
 
#6
vampireuk said:
Are these not the soldiers that have helped make the country what it is now?

Yes, but notice one thing, if you read the news item, those in control of the armouries and closest to Mugabe (Damn the b*stard to the pits of hell) are paid regularly, more, on time and also have bonuses for acts of violence.


It won't be long now until that Tw@t's upperlip is a trophy for someone who's had enough, it'll be a fine day for the Rhodie's who are proved right and the Zim's who knew what was going to happen and for the both of them, who only wanted such a beautiful country to work and thrive.

Personally i'd like to see the place (As has probably been said before) subject to a Commonwealth force for say, 2 years and stabilized, then a leave behind force to monitor things..

Bin Iraq and Afghanistan and get some nice sunshine Op's for our blokes and help clear up the mess that a breakaway colony and a marxist/tribal government has left.

Notice I said "Commonwealth" as you couldn't trust just our government alone to make decsions as in 6 months the new Zimbabwean government would be corrupt as this one..........
 
#7
Cutaway said:
Whiskybreath said:
They are indeed. And they are the soldiers who enforced a Free Vote on the populace at the last couple of elections. "Free" as in "ZANU-PF", of course. Sadly, the ZANU-Labour thinkers in the West believe that they're victims, and should be the recipients of Aid.
As you know WB, the majority already have been - but in the plural.
I estimated 80% in my workforce at BB (in contrast to UNDP's figure of 40%). Now they seem to have a major typhoid problem too. Life's just a bowl of cherries.
 
#8
Whiskybreath said:
Cutaway said:
Whiskybreath said:
They are indeed. And they are the soldiers who enforced a Free Vote on the populace at the last couple of elections. "Free" as in "ZANU-PF", of course. Sadly, the ZANU-Labour thinkers in the West believe that they're victims, and should be the recipients of Aid.
As you know WB, the majority already have been - but in the plural.
I estimated 80% in my workforce at BB (in contrast to UNDP's figure of 40%). Now they seem to have a major typhoid problem too. Life's just a bowl of cherries.
Just a bit of a clue there...you an ex-blackboot?
 
#9
No, just a visiting bwana mkubwa for a year or so recently, until I got the gypsy's warning and packed up! Employed a few former black and brown booted types, a surprisingly high proportion of whom I never caught in the act of scandalous corruption (compared to most other sub-saharan episodes in my time). Tragic, all of it, but you know that.
 
#10
Indeed, a bit too far North for me tho' But remember as a kid of 16 sitting on the banks of the Zambezi east of Vic falls, spotting Zambian Army OP's watching 3 commando set up for a braai!

My Old man was P*ssing himself laughing as they had set up at an angle to the braai on the other side of the river and all you could see was a cluster of Scope and Bino flashes, he expected them to "borrow" a boat and try to get across so they could ask for the left overs
 
#11
Sadly, the corollary is that tiny children and wholly innocent civilians are as ill-fed and hungry as the so-called 'soldiers' loyal to the regime of the disgusting Mugabe.

So sad that the 'spiv' Bliar invaded a sovereign nation, albeit at the behest of his crazed master, whilst ignoring the plight of a former colony. A colony that had proved loyal and productive and an example of excellence and achievement to the disparate nations of the giant continent of Africa.
 
#12
Classic African end game finally approaches.

1. Troops start to go hungry and things turn ugly.

2. Disaffected factions engage "loyal" troops who suddenly see their glorious Comrade and his cronies legging it into exile to spend more time their stolen billions.

3. Various remaining factions start fighting it out for "power" in wrecked country.

4. Economy wholly collapses.

5. All out Civil War leading to "Humanitarian Crisis"

6. Media arrives

7. After much pious spoutings by world leaders, "calls for peace" by God botherers, the inevitable farting about at the inevitable "Summit" and endless Resolutions, UN finally pay other African states to go in under their flag to bring order and spray cash about (only to find Chinese got there first.)

8. Ongoing chaos and misery for many years until order is restored under government of national unity.

9. Strong man emerges by knocking off opposition, supported by army

10. Economy picks up. Foreign investors go in

11. Money starts to be generated.

12. African Kleptocracy occurs, bleeding country dry.

13. Strong man remains in power by terror and violence.

14. Economy starts to collapse. Foreigners blamed

15. Money runs out. Army goes hungry.

16, Repeat step 2.
 
#14
Litotes said:
The latest story in the slow-motion car crash that is Zimbabwe is here:

Sunday Telegraph

We might all whinge about PAYD but, at least, we are paid and we have access to food!

Litotes
True for now, however given Broons contempt for the Armed Forces and the Governments slide towards Mugabes methods for retaining power, who knows for how long.
 
#15
I take it the change from large commercial farms to subsistance farming has yielded the desired results.

10-1 says mugabes heart is eaten by one of his aides.
 
#16
All aid should be stopped. Harsh in the short term but it will make them form a better system in the long term. Aid to Africa just supports corrupt regimes IMO. In other words, I think that international aid just makes things worse in the long run.
 
#17
Mugabe once deposed to get job of Broons private spin doctor ... since Zanu-labour are already taking leaf from the Mugabe playbook in having opposition mp's arrested on trumped up charges.
Cnut! (broon or mugabe ... take your pick).
 
#18
It was only last month the Zimbabwean soldiers burnt the biggest crop producing farm in the country. All because it was owned by a white farmer.

Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.
 
#19
If we must give any sort of aid I'd rather it to be help set up UN refugee camps just across the border in South Africa, Zambia, Botswana and Mozambique. Unfortunately if you try doing anything inside Zimbabwe itself more than likely Mugabe or the thugs that are using him like a sock puppet nowadays will either nick half the stuff to resell on the black market to make a profit or use force to control the supply/who gets access to it and help cement their control of the country.

Let the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Refugees run the show since that's what they're there for and they're funded internationally. The surrounding countries would hardly object since they're already having problems with the estimated 25-30% of the Zimbabwean population that have illegally emigrated to them.
 
#20
purple and pi$$.

zims mess. let them sort it. If they don't have the balls to stand up and do something, it their own fault.

hopefully oneday in blighty, people will also say enough is enough... and do something....
 

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