You've been Trumped BBC2 Last night

#1
A film by an independent film maker about the bully boy tactics used by Trump and Salmond to get 2 golf courses built on protected SSSI land.

I know most of you could not care less, but it shows what we have coming with Salmond and his willingness to trample over people and to bow down to money.

Brief synopsis:
Trump buys an estate a few miles north of Aberdeen,
The estate contains an SSSI and homes/farms belonging to private residents.
He applies for planning permission to build 1500 luxury homes, a hotel, 2 club houses and 2 golf courses.
RSPB object stating thousands of geese nest on the dunes in the winter plus vary rare birds live there.
SEPA (Scottish Environmental Protection Agency) object stating that the sand dunes are unique and the last remaining truely wild dunes in Britain and vital to protect.
6000 people object.
All the residents object, some of whom had had several generations of family living there.
Aberdeenshire council reject the planning permission after severa years of economic and environmental study.
Salmond gets involved, the development being in his constituancy
Scottish Governemnt over turn Aberdeenshire council and grant permission, the first time this had ever happened.
Trump demands Compulsory Purchase Orders to buy residents homes.
Scottish Government agree...but later change their mind after a huge local demonstration.

Kermode Uncut: You've Been Trumped - YouTube

I hate Trump and I hate Salmond...*******.
 
#4
Watched it last night, a very one sided 'documentary' that gave almost no time to the very obvious benefits of this £1 Billion development, and focused on a small handful of diehards who seemed convinced, with a lot of promoting from the Scottish naturalists and nationalists, they could do a 'Local Hero' on Donald Trump.

And what did they end up with? The course has been built, and looks very nice,

Project Overview - Trump International Golf Links - Scotland

And their homes? It never dawned on them that Gazillionaire property developers would happily spend a million or two to put giant berms that will be topped with trees around their homes they refused to sell, to screen them off and turn them into worthless property with no views or light that they will eventually have to sell for peanuts.
It may make good copy doing a David and Goliath, but in the real world, when Goliath offers you a handsome cheque, take it or unlike in the sky pixies book, Goliath tends to stomp your arse and win.
 
#5
Trump comes across as an arrogant cnut and I think he may regret this one , locals paraquating the greens and abusing guests wont help but I think the glorious Aberdonian sunshine could be his biggest problem, does it ever get above freezing or stop raining up there?
 
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Tremaine

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#6
Quote 2/52: "Brief synopsis:
Trump buys an estate a few miles north of Aberdeen,
The estate contains an SSSI and homes/farms belonging to private residents.
He applies for planning permission to build 1500 luxury homes, a hotel, 2 club houses and 2 golf courses.
RSPB object stating thousands of geese nest on the dunes in the winter plus vary rare birds live there.
SEPA (Scottish Environmental Protection Agency) object stating that the sand dunes are unique and the last remaining truely wild dunes in Britain and vital to protect.
6000 people object.
All the residents object, some of whom had had several generations of family living there...".


I watched this last night, DT slagging off local residents while chucking his teddy. So Trump extends his empire and walks all over the local residents and the wildlife. "I want to build 1500 luxury homes, a hotel, 2 club houses and 2 golf courses so bog off out of it you lot". Yes it would have been more sensible, in the long run, for the locals to have given up, accepting the cheques by the way things have turned out. However, Trump is another megalomaniac rich cnut flexing his financial clout, giving not a single fcuk about SSSI protected land or the locals. Trump knew that building new homes would clinch the deal and solve government problems. It was a matter of principle for the locals, so good on those few die-hards for standing up to Trump and his sycophants. I'd have done the same. The good men didn't just do nothing and take the money. Are the locals' property values and lives now knackered? Let's not keep allowing big money, politicians and developments to wreck communities and ever shrinking protected land.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#7
Odd isn't it that the same party that stood up for "crofters rights" and despoiled other, albeit rich, people of their property seems to have less interest in property rights of other people generally?
 
#8


I know it's a bit unladylike but that is what he is - end of.........
 
#9
Trump comes across as an arrogant cnut and I think he may regret this one , locals paraquating the greens and abusing guests wont help
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll show him.

Reality? In a years time when the links are bringing in plenty of jobs and money to the area, the hold outs will quickly find they stop being local heros and the locals will turn on them. It's always been thus and the Trumps of the world know that $$$ always trump principles in the end. He already seems to own the local council, the Jockinese parliament jump when he says how high, and seems to have Grampian plod at his beck and call on speed dial.


but I think the glorious Aberdonian sunshine could be his biggest problem, does it ever get above freezing or stop raining up there?
Unlike St Andrews were it's also usually pissing down and crawling with rich Yanks golfers? Sorry, but that's what the rich Yanks expect from Scothland… rain and grumpy locals.
 
#10
Odd isn't it that the same party that stood up for "crofters rights" and despoiled other, albeit rich, people of their property seems to have less interest in property rights of other people generally?
Are you implying that wee eck has been given very handsomely stuffed wee envelopes?
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#11
The jobs argument is rubbish. The place will be staffed by a small number of middle class "hotel management" grads and cheap labourers. Neither are likely to be local, with the latter mostly eastern European. This trick has been used by fish farming companies. On Mull they said they'd create 30 jobs. And they did - only very few of them went to locals
 
#12
The jobs argument is rubbish. The place will be staffed by a small number of middle class "hotel management" grads and cheap labourers. Neither are likely to be local, with the latter mostly eastern European. This trick has been used by fish farming companies. On Mull they said they'd create 30 jobs. And they did - only very few of them went to locals
These touristic developments don't live in a hermetically sealed bubble, there will be 1,500 residential and holiday homes on that development that will need local services and the tourism that will flow from it, plus the hotel. It's interesting that the local chamber of trade was not anywhere to be seen in this we McDrama - no phalanxes of irate Aberdonian shopkeepers chanting 'Rich Yank shoppers go hame, we dinnae wan ya shoppin in our local wee shoppe's!
 
#13
These touristic developments don't live in a hermetically sealed bubble, there will be 1,500 residential and holiday homes on that development that will need local services and the tourism that will flow from it, plus the hotel. It's interesting that the local chamber of trade was not anywhere to be seen in this we McDrama - no phalanxes of irate Aberdonian shopkeepers chanting 'Rich Yank shoppers go hame, we dinnae wan ya shoppin in our local wee shoppe's!
Probably worth doing a bit of research before you get too carried away. There are no houses and no hotel and there is a very good chance there never will be as Trump is refusing to build them unless a proposed offshore wind farm gets cancelled.
 

Rod924

LE
Kit Reviewer
#14
I was really shocked by this programme in that the Grampian Police appeared to be on the payroll of Trump. Their heavy handed arrest of the film maker filming was shocking. The police also did diddly squat when approached by the residents, who pay for their service.

The guy having his water cut off for over a week is a disgrace. It is quite unbelievable that these folk are treated by a balding fat septic in their own land. SNP and independence? Thick as bloody thieves.
 
#15
Probably worth doing a bit of research before you get too carried away. There are no houses and no hotel and there is a very good chance there never will be as Trump is refusing to build them unless a proposed offshore wind farm gets cancelled.
The Trump is obviously a cnut of the highest water... Look at his hair FFS!!!

If there was a box full of fucks he'd take the money.
 
#16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll show him.

Reality? In a years time when the links are bringing in plenty of jobs and money to the area, the hold outs will quickly find they stop being local heros and the locals will turn on them. It's always been thus and the Trumps of the world know that $$$ always trump principles in the end. He already seems to own the local council, the Jockinese parliament jump when he says how high, and seems to have Grampian plod at his beck and call on speed dial.

Unlike St Andrews were it's also usually pissing down and crawling with rich Yanks golfers? Sorry, but that's what the rich Yanks expect from Scothland… rain and grumpy locals.
What a delightfully pragmatic approach you have to life; 'Money talks, bullshit walks' type of thing. It doesn't seem to bother you that Mr Trump has simply bought what he wants? I wonder; are your own principles are as easily bought as the Scottish Government's seem to be?

Is he likely to make good on the rest of the project? How many jobs will it create in reality, as most holiday work is very seasonal. The winter months would be pretty bleak, economically, I would have thought. Most holiday jobs are migratory, and not the basis of a mortgage application. But as has been said it looks like the SNP have decided on the type of business they're happy to get into bed with.

I suspect this might crop up come the referendum.
 
#17
Well it's a Scottish issue afte all, and they have scottish Parliament so basically the locals can gi ve their SNP rep a good shoeing. Not an English matter end of.
 
#18
What a delightfully pragmatic approach you have to life; 'Money talks, bullshit walks' type of thing. It doesn't seem to bother you that Mr Trump has simply bought what he wants? I wonder; are your own principles are as easily bought as the Scottish Government's seem to be?

Is he likely to make good on the rest of the project? How many jobs will it create in reality, as most holiday work is very seasonal. The winter months would be pretty bleak, economically, I would have thought. Most holiday jobs are migratory, and not the basis of a mortgage application. But as has been said it looks like the SNP have decided on the type of business they're happy to get into bed with.

I suspect this might crop up come the referendum.



Cycle of life, when a big fuckoff sized bulldozer belonging to a vastly wealthy developer with very sharply booted and suited legal teams is coming down the road, always best to get out of it's way before it squishes you. You could call it the 'Rachel Corrie Principle®
And yes, my principles are always negotiable if you wave a big enough cheque under my nose..
 
#19
Probably worth doing a bit of research before you get too carried away. There are no houses and no hotel and there is a very good chance there never will be as Trump is refusing to build them unless a proposed offshore wind farm gets cancelled.
Ah, you mean the very slick and wealthy property developer is holding a sword of Damocles over Councils heads to ensure he gets his own way? And this surprises you?

Personally, anyone against wind turbines is all good in my books, the things are bloody hideous eyesores and financially ruinous to the economy.
 
#20
Ah, you mean the very slick and wealthy property developer is holding a sword of Damocles over Councils heads to ensure he gets his own way? And this surprises you?

Personally, anyone against wind turbines is all good in my books, the things are bloody hideous eyesores and financially ruinous to the economy.
Not the council's head, he has already shown he can go straight over them when he wants to. Renewable energy sources are a key part of the SNPs vision for the future economy of Scotland and they are ones who have allowed him to get this far. Given the choice between continuing to back Trump and building the wind farm I think the wind farm is likely to win.
 

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