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Tyk

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Too easy, try again.


I don't know about your other questions, Bovs, since there are folks on ARRSE much better qualified to answer them, but I probably know more about these (last) two than most.
Yes, it is possible to use smack as you describe. You have a threshold of about 48 hours in which you can load as much as you like and you won't become addicted. There are lots of folks who do exactly that.

MsG


And no it isn't interesting at all.
@DaManBugs That looks pretty clear to me and I'm sure anyone that understands fairly basic English to be you claiming Heroin is not addictive.
I know you're too scared to respond to this as it's very clear you've been caught out in yet another of your historical lies by claiming you never said it, which makes you oh erm... What's the word I'm looking for?

Oh yup LIAR.
 
Too easy, try again.


I don't know about your other questions, Bovs, since there are folks on ARRSE much better qualified to answer them, but I probably know more about these (last) two than most.
Yes, it is possible to use smack as you describe. You have a threshold of about 48 hours in which you can load as much as you like and you won't become addicted. There are lots of folks who do exactly that.

MsG


And no it isn't interesting at all.
To be fair, that post was made in 2010. In 2018 he revised his non-addictive time period down to 24 hours:

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/how’s-your-german.284934/page-47#post-8733465

DaManBugs said:
We've had various threads on drugs over the years, but I believe you'll find that @jarrod248 broadly confirms my views on the long-term physical effects heroin has on the human body. The scary stories are put out by those who feel they have a right to interfere with as many aspects as possible of other folks' lives. For instance, a durable myth (still doing the rounds, as it happens) is that one single dose of heroin will get you "hooked". That's simply not true. You can load as much as you like for 24 hours (a whole day) and not get addicted. Mind you, longer than that could be hazardous. So the drill is: load for a day and then give it a couple of days of rest. That way, you can avoid becoming addicted. It's a case of screwing the nut, that's all.

Now, there are going to be loads of ARRSErs who refute that but believe me, in that respect, I really do speak from experience.

MsG
Still, it's not really an issue if you do get addicted because heroin is safer than alcohol.


DaManBugs said:
I’m not comparing anything to anything. I’ve never encouraged the use of heroin and my own advice would be to stay away from it. However, if someone’s going to get addicted to something, then heroin is a much better choice than, say, alk, simply because it’s not as dangerous.
 

hotel_california

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As is "usual" in the meantime. Dorkus_Shittus has bottled any answer to my question. How, er, surprising?

Thus I throw the question open to ARRSErs in general: when did I ever claim that heroin was "non-addictive"? Now, this should be really, really interesting.:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

MsG
I'll answer this. I dont believe you have ever claimed that it's non-addictive.
However, it makes me question why you, a socialist and a Buddhist, would take pride in being involved in it's production and supply. You claim to still be taking heroin. Are you an addict? How does this affect your work for the NHS? Are they aware that you are a long time and regular user of heroin?
 

morsk

LE
I would love to but sadly it's not true.

You'll imagine how shocked I was when I found out that Bugsy may have been slightly economical with the truth.
He told fibs? Thats a new one....
 
Bugsy knows all about heroin and lots of other drugs as he made the stuff sold it in the jungles of Laos and later sold drugs in Italy / Switzerland to see Stevie and Nina through school. He also allegedly sold drugs on the German art circuit. His description of shagging Gisella Capitain after dealing her 20 grams of white is a master class...





In creative writing.
 
His description of shagging Gisella Capitain after dealing her 20 grams of white is a master class...
Only one L in her first name.

However you weren't fucking her, so its understandable that you made a slight spelling error I would have thought old Anhelat Ignis would have known the correct surname of the woman he was boning

The final member of Kippenberger's "Commune" was Gisela Kapitain. Originally from Selb in Hesse, she was my girlfriend at the time and taught at an infants' school in Berlin.
Also the Irish stud muffin claims to have been married at the same time, he clearly has no loyalty to his made up wife.
 

Winnet

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Although heroin addiction does not begin after just one use, as many people believe, the pleasurable feelings that it induces can motivate people to use it again. A physical and psychological dependence on heroin may actually take a while to set in, during which time the user will probably think that they have their use under control. However, as tolerance to the drug starts to go up, they will need to take more of it, and more frequently, to feel the same effects.

For this reason, a heroin user is often already an addict before they even realise that there is a problem.

Not a thing to fuck about with .
 

Smeggers

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Hey, phughnutz, you're really going to have an extreme brain-fart to prove the farty bollix you've just posted. I really look forward to it!

MsG

PS. How come my avatar has now become "circular" - like many others. Is that suddenly an ARRSE thing? Just asking, like.
Avatars have become circular as part of a money-saving effort. All those little corner bits will be saved for newer members avatars. In your case Bugsy, it's because you go round in circles telling the same old lies!
 
Although heroin addiction does not begin after just one use, as many people believe, the pleasurable feelings that it induces can motivate people to use it again. A physical and psychological dependence on heroin may actually take a while to set in, during which time the user will probably think that they have their use under control. However, as tolerance to the drug starts to go up, they will need to take more of it, and more frequently, to feel the same effects.

For this reason, a heroin user is often already an addict before they even realise that there is a problem.

Not a thing to **** about with .
Thing is apart from Drugsy, how many people on here have really tried heroin?

I bet thankfully there's few with real life experience of it
 
For this reason, a heroin user is often already an addict before they even realise that there is a problem.

Not a thing to **** about with .
I dont see why not, its harmless apparently.
 

Helm

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To be fair, that post was made in 2010. In 2018 he revised his non-addictive time period down to 24 hours:

https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/how’s-your-german.284934/page-47#post-8733465



Still, it's not really an issue if you do get addicted because heroin is safer than alcohol.

He meant to type Elk there not alk which makes it a lot more sensi. . . well anyway.
 
From the same thread

I have my *cough* own sources. For personal consumption, I buy 250 grammes Thai No 4 (92 - 96% purity) for 3,000 of them there Septic dollaz at source. But I don't know what others pay.

Once again Bugsy makes himself look like a ****.
The thing is, spackerman. - prove me wrong!

Sure, you've been intent on demeaning and discrediting me for over 13 years. But why? I've never shown (and never had) any interest in you whatsoever, Why should/would I? For me, you're just some gacky ARRSEr who hopelessly attempted to present himself as an "intellectual" back in the day, but proved to be, er, not quite up to the task, to put it lightly. Which is why you're prohibited from posting on "Current Affairs" to this day.

MsG

Further to my other answer, Bugsy, Ive been doing some maths.
An average junkie bag of heroin is about 10 quid, its weight about 0.1grams and the purity is around the 40% mark.
The 250 grams that you buy for 2400 quid from your "source" has a street value of approximately 50k, its no wonder you need a desert eagle as protection.



Links provided because I dont need to make stuff up.

You embarrassing smelly old liar.
 

Winnet

Old-Salt
I dont see why not, its harmless apparently.
For some it seems. Lucky or with magical ability to control or manipulate your own brain receptors. All roads lead to Rome as far as Heroin is concerned . Even when you are off the stuff , you are on the stuff.
 
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Winnet

Old-Salt
Thing is apart from Drugsy, how many people on here have really tried heroin?

I bet thankfully there's few with real life experience of it
Me neither , however the true nature of Opiod addiction is plain to see in some communities and age groups. It's a slippery slope to full smack rat status.
 
Thing is apart from Drugsy, how many people on here have really tried heroin?

I bet thankfully there's few with real life experience of it
The nearest Bugsy ever got to heroin was watching clips of The French Connection through the tv rental shop window next to his SWP propaganda stand.
 
Thing is apart from Drugsy, how many people on here have really tried heroin?

I bet thankfully there's few with real life experience of it
Quite a few people will have experienced a heroin high if they've been scraped up into an ambulance and dropped into A&E. It's referred to in hospitals as diamorphine as 'heroin' tends to worry people.*

It's quite fun but not worth the crippling constipation in my opinion.

* - same reason heart issues are treated with glyceryl trinitrate, not nitroglycerine, and body imaging is done with Magnetic Resonance Imaging, not Nuclear Magnetic Resonance.
 
I've only ever known one person take heroin, they were dead fit and a health freak, so knowing they OD'd on heroin was a bit of a shock, they didn't fit the image
 

Brotherton Lad

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Quite a few people will have experienced a heroin high if they've been scraped up into an ambulance and dropped into A&E. It's referred to in hospitals as diamorphine as 'heroin' tends to worry people.*

It's quite fun but not worth the crippling constipation in my opinion.

* - same reason heart issues are treated with glyceryl trinitrate, not nitroglycerine, and body imaging is done with Magnetic Resonance Imaging, not Nuclear Magnetic Resonance.
I had 3 weeks of intravenous morphine back in 2003 (medevaced to Birmingham from Cyprus) - after 11 days of constipation I had to stop eating (no room). Finally relieved by a lovely Jamaican lady with an enema. Made my eyes water.
 
Quite a few people will have experienced a heroin high if they've been scraped up into an ambulance and dropped into A&E. It's referred to in hospitals as diamorphine as 'heroin' tends to worry people.*

It's quite fun but not worth the crippling constipation in my opinion.

* - same reason heart issues are treated with glyceryl trinitrate, not nitroglycerine, and body imaging is done with Magnetic Resonance Imaging, not Nuclear Magnetic Resonance.
But yes been on morphine in hospital though, it was shite, doesn't kill the pain at all, you just stop thinking about it, didn't realise that was the same :)

It's not something I'd like try put it that way
 

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