"You're a poo-poo head!"..."No, you're a poo-poo head" - Sticky for handbag swinging

Actually, it is. I realise that your "popularity" is solely dependant on being contrary whenever I post stuff, but you make yourself look a bit of a dick when you state nonsense like that.
Just out of interested who does he look a bit of a dick to? The ARRSE heavyweights?
 
Listen sunshine, there is a difference between the Huguenots who were refugees from an intolerant France, and a flipping occupying army, perhaps you hadn’t noticed. I don’t need telling about the nuances of my mother toungue, but I do have a copy of “German , how it is spoken and written“ my mum got for my dad I can send to you sine it appears you need it. But then some Irish have a penchant for siding with intolerant governments to overthrow supposed intolerance.
And who knew, Count Bernadotte was French, the King of Italy was at one point a Napoleon
They were genuine refugees who weren't even always safe when they got here, some of the old priest holes in properties were used by them
 
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All of them?
It was a big tent they could fit in the big society, in fact beating Greta Thunberg to the time travelling lark, David Cameron setup the big tent and then reused the idea in the 20th century
 

DaManBugs

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@DaManBugs are you a socialist or a communist?
What is the difference in your opinion?
Do you believe in democracy?
Do you believe the public should be able to vote to choose between socialism or capitalism?
That seems a strange set of questions to ask, given that we've gone over the subject on countless threads. It seems like you want an intro into the "Bugsy-bashing set" and would like to earn yourself a bit of "street-cred". However, I'll respond to your questions anyway.
Am I a Socialist or a Communist? I've been a committed Socialist all my life, but should Communism at any time become a viable option, then I'll change because it's a sliding scale on the same level.

What is the difference, in my opinion? That's an easy one: money!

Do I believe in democracy? I most certainly do, but not the Capitalist "democracy" that we've been brainwashed to accept. There's a whole lot more to genuine democracy than filling out a ballot every four or five years. Democracy is having a direct voice in your own future and the future of the country you happen to reside in. All of the countries that called themselves "Socialist" or "Communist" failed miserably and never came anywhere near being even halfways either Socialist or Communist. The main reason for that is because the ideology was imposed from above. Along with that, there was always a marked lack of democracy, and neither Socialism nor Communism can exist without open and genuine democracy.

The only communist revolution that ever succeeded was the Russian Revolution of 1917, and that's because it came "from the bottom up". The German Revolution that was sparked by it failed because there were still too many of the "bourgeoisie" working against it and planning a counter-revolution (just like happened in 1989 in East Germany).

Do I believe the population should have a choice between Socialism and Capitalism? In principle, I do. But there can only be a transition to Socialism when the majority of the folks uphold it and are convinced that it's in their best interests (which it most certainly is) and in the interest of the human race surviving.

MsG
 

Glue_Sniffer

Old-Salt
That seems a strange set of questions to ask, given that we've gone over the subject on countless threads. It seems like you want an intro into the "Bugsy-bashing set" and would like to earn yourself a bit of "street-cred". However, I'll respond to your questions anyway.
Am I a Socialist or a Communist? I've been a committed Socialist all my life, but should Communism at any time become a viable option, then I'll change because it's a sliding scale on the same level.

What is the difference, in my opinion? That's an easy one: money!

Do I believe in democracy? I most certainly do, but not the Capitalist "democracy" that we've been brainwashed to accept. There's a whole lot more to genuine democracy than filling out a ballot every four or five years. Democracy is having a direct voice in your own future and the future of the country you happen to reside in. All of the countries that called themselves "Socialist" or "Communist" failed miserably and never came anywhere near being even halfways either Socialist or Communist. The main reason for that is because the ideology was imposed from above. Along with that, there was always a marked lack of democracy, and neither Socialism nor Communism can exist without open and genuine democracy.

The only communist revolution that ever succeeded was the Russian Revolution of 1917, and that's because it came "from the bottom up". The German Revolution that was sparked by it failed because there were still too many of the "bourgeoisie" working against it and planning a counter-revolution (just like happened in 1989 in East Germany).

Do I believe the population should have a choice between Socialism and Capitalism? In principle, I do. But there can only be a transition to Socialism when the majority of the folks uphold it and are convinced that it's in their best interests (which it most certainly is) and in the interest of the human race surviving.

MsG
I recall learning that the Imperial Germans supported the Bolshevik Russian Revolution, in order to weaken their Imperial Russian competitor.
 

Glue_Sniffer

Old-Salt
That seems a strange set of questions to ask, given that we've gone over the subject on countless threads. It seems like you want an intro into the "Bugsy-bashing set" and would like to earn yourself a bit of "street-cred". However, I'll respond to your questions anyway.
Am I a Socialist or a Communist? I've been a committed Socialist all my life, but should Communism at any time become a viable option, then I'll change because it's a sliding scale on the same level.

What is the difference, in my opinion? That's an easy one: money!

Do I believe in democracy? I most certainly do, but not the Capitalist "democracy" that we've been brainwashed to accept. There's a whole lot more to genuine democracy than filling out a ballot every four or five years. Democracy is having a direct voice in your own future and the future of the country you happen to reside in. All of the countries that called themselves "Socialist" or "Communist" failed miserably and never came anywhere near being even halfways either Socialist or Communist. The main reason for that is because the ideology was imposed from above. Along with that, there was always a marked lack of democracy, and neither Socialism nor Communism can exist without open and genuine democracy.

The only communist revolution that ever succeeded was the Russian Revolution of 1917, and that's because it came "from the bottom up". The German Revolution that was sparked by it failed because there were still too many of the "bourgeoisie" working against it and planning a counter-revolution (just like happened in 1989 in East Germany).

Do I believe the population should have a choice between Socialism and Capitalism? In principle, I do. But there can only be a transition to Socialism when the majority of the folks uphold it and are convinced that it's in their best interests (which it most certainly is) and in the interest of the human race surviving.

MsG
What do you mean by the difference between socialism and communism is money?

Could a socialist society ever use hard / commodity money? Or can they only ever use fiat currency?
 

Glue_Sniffer

Old-Salt
That seems a strange set of questions to ask, given that we've gone over the subject on countless threads. It seems like you want an intro into the "Bugsy-bashing set" and would like to earn yourself a bit of "street-cred". However, I'll respond to your questions anyway.
Am I a Socialist or a Communist? I've been a committed Socialist all my life, but should Communism at any time become a viable option, then I'll change because it's a sliding scale on the same level.

What is the difference, in my opinion? That's an easy one: money!

Do I believe in democracy? I most certainly do, but not the Capitalist "democracy" that we've been brainwashed to accept. There's a whole lot more to genuine democracy than filling out a ballot every four or five years. Democracy is having a direct voice in your own future and the future of the country you happen to reside in. All of the countries that called themselves "Socialist" or "Communist" failed miserably and never came anywhere near being even halfways either Socialist or Communist. The main reason for that is because the ideology was imposed from above. Along with that, there was always a marked lack of democracy, and neither Socialism nor Communism can exist without open and genuine democracy.

The only communist revolution that ever succeeded was the Russian Revolution of 1917, and that's because it came "from the bottom up". The German Revolution that was sparked by it failed because there were still too many of the "bourgeoisie" working against it and planning a counter-revolution (just like happened in 1989 in East Germany).

Do I believe the population should have a choice between Socialism and Capitalism? In principle, I do. But there can only be a transition to Socialism when the majority of the folks uphold it and are convinced that it's in their best interests (which it most certainly is) and in the interest of the human race surviving.

MsG
I watched a video on YouTube about some white South African farmers who moved to The Congo. Their farms in South Africa had been devalued, due to a loss of property rights.

The Congo government was selling them some land that was previously part of a collective farm (socialist?). The problem was the South African farmers couldn't get on well with the native Congo people. The Congo people weren't happy to work for the South Africans and started stealing equipment and wood.

It struck me that even though the South Africans were competent farmers, I doubt many would have wanted to invest their capital in The Congo land.

If the Congo farms had remained as socialist government collectives, then maybe the South African farmers could have been successfully employed as farm managers, without the South Africans needing to risk their capital?

It gave me the impression that the Capitalist / Communist divide isn't as simple as is often presented. Maybe some countries are just more suited to either system?
 
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I watched a video on YouTube about some white South African farmers who moved to The Congo. Their farms in South Africa had been devalued, due to a loss of property rights.

The Congo government was selling them some land that was previously part of a collective farm (socialist?). The problem was the South African farmers couldn't get on well with the native Congo people. The Congo people weren't happy to work for the South Africans and started stealing equipment and wood.

It struck me that even though the South Africans were competent farmers, I doubt many would have wanted to invest their capital in The Congo land.

If the Congo farms had remained as socialist government collectives, then maybe the South African farmers could have been successfully employed as farm managers, without the South Africans needing to risk their capital?

It gave me the impression that the Capitalist / Communist divide isn't as simple as is often presented. Maybe some countries are just more suited to either system?
I think where they may fall down is that a lot, if not most, humans are predisposed to hoarding of resources ("just in case") and greed.
 
I don't know what things are like where you live but round here people run up to me in the street to congratulate me for occasionally taking the piss out of Bugsy :rolleyes:
I have spoken to the wife and she has agreed not to cremate me but bury me with a stone inscribed 'I Was Better Then Bugsy'.
She has secured me an exclusive plot in Lodge Hill Cemetery next to a General and a KCB (different people).
It should attract a lot of visitors and the Cemetery Superintendent is delighted.
 

hotel_california

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I don't know what things are like where you live but round here people run up to me in the street to congratulate me for occasionally taking the piss out of Bugsy :rolleyes:
For exposing Bugsy as a drug addled fantasist, some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was outta respect.
 

StBob072

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For exposing Bugsy as a drug addled fantasist, some of the kids from the neighborhood carried my mother’s groceries all the way home. You know why? It was outta respect.

And you didn't even have to do anything! ;-)
 
That seems a strange set of questions to ask, given that we've gone over the subject on countless threads. It seems like you want an intro into the "Bugsy-bashing set" and would like to earn yourself a bit of "street-cred". However, I'll respond to your questions anyway.
Am I a Socialist or a Communist? I've been a committed Socialist all my life, but should Communism at any time become a viable option, then I'll change because it's a sliding scale on the same level.

What is the difference, in my opinion? That's an easy one: money!
You'd be in trouble then Bugsy, anyone who could earn 300k from their translations alone would lose out big time with the commies.



Incidentally if you can earn 300k with your translation skills, just imagine how much you could earn if you were any good at it?
 

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