You cant deport 3,000 criminals, EU tells Britain

#1
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Yes I know its the Mail but it does seem a nonsense, especially in the light of Mr Pun VC being disallowed entry :mad:
Daily Mail" said:
You can't deport 3,000 criminals, EU tells Britain
By JAMES SLACK - More by this author »

Last updated at 01:08am on 28th May 2007

Up to 3,000 foreign criminals will be released from prison on to Britain's streets without any attempt to deport them, Government papers have revealed.

A note sent to probation staff says as few as 250 convicts from European countries will face even preliminary deportation proceedings every year.

It pins the blame on an EU directive which rules that committing a serious crime is no longer sufficient grounds for removal.

Neither is the Government's desire to deter other foreign nationals from committing a crime in this country.

As a result, the vast bulk of the estimated 3,300 European criminals released from British jails each year - including burglars, thieves and muggers - will simply walk free.

The revelation undermines the promise made by Tony Blair to tackle the problem in the wake of the foreign prisoner scandal last year.

He said: "It is now time that anybody who is convicted of an imprisonable offence and who is a foreign national is deported."

The Conservatives said that the revelation was a further embarrassment for Home Secretary John Reid.

Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: "Yet again we see that the public will be put at risk as a direct result of John Reid's failure.

"He spun he had a deal to remove these offenders but the rhetoric has not matched the action. John Reid was brought in to deal with the foreign prisoner crisis yet one year on as he quits office we see he has totally failed."

Overseas criminals convicted of crimes warranting a jail sentence of a year or more can normally be kicked out of Britain when they are released from prison - on the grounds that their presence is "not conducive to the public good".

But Probation Circular 11/2007, sent out this week and seen by the Daily Mail, said an EU directive has made the criteria far more stringent for citizens of the European Economic Area.

The Home Office can only remove EEA nationals who are highly likely to re-offend. They must also pose a "present, genuine and sufficiently serious threat" to society.

The new rules apply to citizens of countries such as Germany, Poland, Romania, Norway, Liechtenstein and Switzerland. They also cover those born in countries such as Africa or the Middle East who have been given passports by other EU countries.

The change means all except the most serious offenders - such as killers and rapists - will not face even an attempt at deportation by the Home Office's Criminal Casework Directorate.

The note to probation staff revealed that just "approximately 250-300" offenders will face even an attempt at removal - which could of course be unsuccessful.

The latest revelation shows how, one year on, the Government is unable to escape the continuing repercussions of the foreign prisoner scandal.

Lin Homer, head of the Immigration and Nationality Directorate, recently told MPs that her staff had tracked down and deported only 163 of the 1,013 foreign offenders who were mistakenly freed without being considered for deportation.

Another 512 were still to be removed from the UK, and the remainder are likely to be allowed to stay.

It emerged that Ministers are floundering on a second promise relating to foreign convicts - to send home foreign nationals imprisoned in Britain.

Jails are at bursting point - with a record 80,812 inmates on Friday - so Labour is desperately trying to secure agreements to send 11,000 convicts back home to serve their sentences.

But it is expected to take years for any significant number to be removed.

Justice Minister Gerry Sutcliffe has admitted there is no chance of an agreement with other EU countries until 2009.

Agreements with countries outside Europe are understood to be even further off.
 
#2
If thats the case, put them on a live firing range as moving tgts. Line up a Bn of troops with a GPMG and a 1000 rds each and go for it. Any that escape can go free. That'll do eh. Well, we wont be deporting them.

BT. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#3
rockape34 said:
HERE
Yes I know its the Mail but it does seem a nonsense, especially in the light of Mr Pun VC being disallowed entry :mad:
Daily Mail" said:
You can't deport 3,000 criminals, EU tells Britain
By JAMES SLACK - More by this author »

If the E.U. would like to pay for the upkeep of the criminals which they have told the Britain that we aren't allowed to deport them THEN PLEASE DO SO .

This is so wrong you have Mr pun vc and all other soldiers who came to this country and fighting for queen and country this gentleman as been treated with disrespect not even being allowed to come and live in the u.k. and be given the health treatment and some where to live which Mr pun rightly deserves

The e.u. knows as a result, the vast bulk of the estimated 3,300 European criminals released from British jails each year - including burglars, thieves and muggers - will simply walk free. being able to live a life of luxury , claim benefits and houses to live in .

Where is Mr punn vc and colleagues right they have done there best for the u.k. where is there human rights .

Our government is there for the British public , so when is the government going to start taking notice what the British people want like for instance let Mr punn vc and is colleagues coming to the u.k. and live and have decent housing ,resources and health like any British person and soldiers
 
#4
Seconded, its our feckin country we should be able to do what we like within our own borders, not what some barbaric and uncivilised foreigner wants us to do!
 
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Brew_Time said:
If thats the case, put them on a live firing range as moving tgts. Line up a Bn of troops with a GPMG and a 1000 rds each and go for it. Any that escape can go free. That'll do eh. Well, we wont be deporting them.

BT. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Can you make it 2000 rounds each if there being allowed to head off to Dover as the numbers will increase from the ones coming through the Euro Tunnel towards us. :twisted:
 
#6
Sorry but if they have been released from prison then they have "paid their debt to society" and should be free to do what every other member of that society are allowed to do.

If they mean this seriously then anyone convicted of a crime that rates imprisonment AND deportation then they should be deported and jailed in their country of origin, inside the EU this should not be a problem.

Otherwise you are saying that the prison system doesn't work. In that case why jail anyone at all?
 

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#7
Hang on!!!

Who the hell do these faceless twerps think they are? This is Great Britain, a soverign nation! We should decide who can, and who cannot stay in this country!

For goodness sake, Why must we bow down before every crack-pot idea that the EU bunch of chinless wonders passes down to us?
 
#8
At last a worthwhile role for the TA, not just for stagging on at Shaibah, the TA should be formed into a reseve Corps of Homeland Defence, at least they'll do a better job than immigration at Dover!
 
#9
Daily Mail" said:
It pins the blame on an EU directive which rules that committing a serious crime is no longer sufficient grounds for removal.
Translation: Government blames someone else for things going wrong with national policy.

Quel suprise.
 
#10
Daily Mail" said:
It pins the blame on an EU directive which rules that committing a serious crime is no longer sufficient grounds for removal.
Well change the fcuking rules then.

Do we not have a government that looks after the British people and their views (I think I know the answer to that).
 
#12
Wasn't there something in the news this month about the lack of foreign labour to pick fruit? Someone in the Government is obviously desperate to get their strawberries in time for Wimbledon!
 
#13
tommy_cooker said:
just place a few GPMG's at the end of the chunnel or send me down there with a cricket bat!
Aha ... so you were the Wolf of Kabul's sidekick all those years ago - but what happened to "clicky ba" slayer of hundreds (maybe more) - did it break? ;-)

...this situation is patently ludicrous - it seems to suggest that EU countries can deport their criminals, illegal immigrants et al to the UK, and our choice is like it or lump it.
 

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