Yet another "another" medal question

[dante242]

A friend has just mounted these, The "gentleman" perports to be ex Guards and AAC, no name at the moment, all the medals are copys as the real ones are kept safe, this has been discussed on the BMF, your thoughts gentleman

 

[balldrick]

Is this the LE Major they were on about
It does seam an improbable group all theoreticaly possible but improbable the fella would be famous in the AAC so over to Air Corps blokes

 

[dante242]

....Yes, possible but not with the AAC, SF perhaps ?

 

[wellyhead]

It is in theory possible, the QSJM is a bit weird though as I believe the were only given out to those who did something worthwhile not like the QGJM

What I find strange is the LSGC and DSO, to y knowledge DSOs have only ever been given to officers, even after John Majors reform, this means he did his time for LSGC (18 yrs looking at the era of the others) in the ranks, got commissioned and then did something in a command position, I am guessing during the Gulf War where, I am guessing, he got the Bronze Star

So we are looking for someone who joined up about 1970, did something in 77 (pos if he was Guards) did no Op tours till 82,, was commissioned by 90, did something in the Gulf that warranted both DSO and Bronze Star.

I would also like to point out that DSOs generally go to Field Officers rather then Capts And Subbies

Entirely possible but what a guy

MBE and MiD could of happened anywhere

oh BTW The Kuwaiti and Saudi medals should not be on the rack


This should be easy to track, not that many have got the Bronze Star

 

[blobmeister]

He isn't AAC, the only recent DSO I believe we have had is Brig Dauncey and that was in Arnham (VC declined as one was issued that day)

 

[rebel_with_a_cause]

Wellyhead, agree with most of your post but in my experience the Silver Jubilee medals were limited in number and issued to units. In the case of the unit I was with at the time, 3 medals which the OC then decided who would get them. He split them 1 for the Officers, 1 for the SNCOs and 1 for the guys, (he chose to do it in a random draw). No I wasn't one of the lucky ones. Other Units no doubt had different criteria for them.

 

[balldrick]

I would also like to point out that DSOs generally go to Field Officers rather then Capts And Subbies

Entirely possible but what a guy

MBE and MiD could of happened anywhere

oh BTW The Kuwaiti and Saudi medals should not be on the rack


This should be easy to track, not that many have got the Bronze Star

Welly the "MBE" is actualy an OBE and the MiD is on a GSM so its for Ulster and the kuwati medal is the senior officers version so IF the bloke is genuine you are looking for someone who was commisioned from the guards(welsh or scots becuase of the SAM) and has been awarded a DSO an OBE a metion in dispatches for Ulster and a Bronze Star so this Walt oops sorry this fella should be easy to track down via the london gazette this has got to be up there with that fat bus drivers group from the falklands 25 parade

 

[rebel_with_a_cause]

If this is a Walt, I am suprised he hasn't awarded himself a QGJM.

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

The combination must be pretty rare (DSO, OBE and MiD in Northern Ireland) so should be pretty easy to research (especially with a QSJM and Broze Star in tow).

I'm pretty sure the last two were only allowed to be accepted as keesakes and so shouldn't be mounted with the others?

 

[jack-daniels]

Maybe he should have a 'gong off' with our old fat friend!!

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Maybe he should have a 'gong off' with our old fat friend!!

But that really is a terrible mess. Wrong order, foreign awards before Brit ones.

Is this chap for real?

 

[rebel_with_a_cause]

I believe he was "outed" with the help of ARRSE by the press locally.

 

[the_boy_syrup]

From arrsepedia
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Jamie_Barratt

The latest in a seemingly endless lineage of Walts, local bus driver and lard arse Barratt achieved notoriety by appearing at a parade in Edinburgh commemorating the 25th anniversary of the Falklands War with a chestful of medals that would've put some senior officers in the shade. Weighing in at a whopping 20st. and sporting airborne style porkies, Barratt certainly struck an imposing figure

 

[dante242]

Well at the moment he has only alluded that they are his (according to the BMF), and untill he puts them up he has broken no law.....I am privy to a little more info but will wait until I get the green light before I let slip the dogs of arrse.....and also wrong forum, if we ascertain they are wrong...mods please move to "walts"

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

From arrsepedia
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Jamie_Barratt

The latest in a seemingly endless lineage of Walts, local bus driver and lard arse Barratt achieved notoriety by appearing at a parade in Edinburgh commemorating the 25th anniversary of the Falklands War with a chestful of medals that would've put some senior officers in the shade. Weighing in at a whopping 20st. and sporting airborne style porkies, Barratt certainly struck an imposing figure

Thanks for that link. Beggars belief doesn't it?

Some excellent photos of the 'real' chaps though.

 

[jack-daniels]

Maybe he should have a 'gong off' with our old fat friend!!

But that really is a terrible mess. Wrong order, foreign awards before Brit ones.

Is this chap for real?

He tried blagging it a Falklands Parade in Edinburgh, sad thing was he was a bus driver, I know the bloke stood next to him and the walting wheels were set in motion. He was outed big time in the Daily Record.

 

[Harry Paget Flashman]

Anyone know what the neck badge is worn by the chap on the left of the pic?

 

[dante242]

The Order of Polonia Restituta

 

[jack-daniels]

The Order of Polonia Restituta

Any idea why he would have been awarded it?

 

[the_boy_syrup]

Heres the wiki on it, is the chap wearing it Polish?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia_Restituta

The Order of Polonia Restituta (Polish: Order Odrodzenia Polski, English: Order of Poland Reborn) is one of Poland's highest Orders. The Order can be conferred for outstanding achievements in the fields of education, science, sport, culture, art, economics, defense of the country, social work, civil service, or for furthering good relations between countries. It was established on February 4, 1921 and can be awarded to both civilians and soldiers, as well as to foreigners