Yee-haaa! Western guns - lever actions, Colts etc.

#1
Having recently discovered that one of the ranges I use also plays host to a black powder club, I quite fancy giving black powder shooting a go.

It seems that not only do they shoot the more usual type of disciplines, but also do Western shooting, which appears to be a bit like IPSC, but with 100 year old weapons. Sounds like a lot of fun to me!

Has anyone here given it a go? What did you reckon?

I can imagine it can get a bit expensive, as I don't think .44/40 or .45LC is easy to find or cheap when you do find it. Can it be done without breaking the bank?

Cheers
T_T
 

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#2
I can put you in touch with a club here who can answer your questions. I used to shoot black powder; a .44 Remington muzzle loader. Great fun and very cheap (apart from the saucepans ruined casting my balls!) Nipples are inexpensive and lead can be obtained from places like Quickfit. They use it for tyre weights. Guns are not prohibitive. But, if you go to cased ammo, for Winchester/Henry etc, can be expensive.
 
#3
I reckon the underlevers in 45 LC or similar are a handy ranch rifle but once tricked up with scopes a la 1500 become a bit too specialised.

Marlin make the best of the ones I've seen.
 
#4
We have a dandy little Winchester 1873 in 44/40, dead easy to reload, and a hoot to shoot. The Dutch like their cowboy duds too, sometimes it hurts my eyes it is so cheezy but I have indeed heard that the Cowboy Action Shooting" or CAS events are very good fun.
 
#5
theres a club here in croughton .. a mr jones (the farmer) lets black powder shooters play all day on sundays...had one or two good days and the whole day cost me around a £10:00 .. i help dig the butts out twice a year.. and get to shoot a few times a day... all i pay is for the powder. and a pint at night.. :D
 
#7
nope... only in wales...Tal Y Fan...know it perchance? even has a pot belly fire (made out of a gas bottle)
 
#8
Just before they banned handguns, a few of us were experimenting with practical pistol disciplines but using lever action Winchesters, at a quarry site in north Devon. I can`t remember the manufacturer of the rifles but one was in 38 special and one in 44 special, which was handy as we had loads of pistol rounds to get rid of. Both were fantastic fun and I was edging towards getting one once the pistol was gone but lost heart in the end as our local club threw in the towel.
 

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#9
Croque_Monsieur said:
We have a dandy little Winchester 1873 in 44/40, dead easy to reload, and a hoot to shoot. The Dutch like their cowboy duds too, sometimes it hurts my eyes it is so cheezy but I have indeed heard that the Cowboy Action Shooting" or CAS events are very good fun.
My German club camp in the field next to the range every May bank holiday dressed up as cowboys and indians :oops: teepees and canvas shelters everywhere - very embarrassing. They are joined by like minded idiots for around Europe....
Its the middle of my French smallbore season so, "wotcha shootin' pardner?" "uh Anschutz 2013 custom, Geronimo" :D
 

ugly

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#10
Taurus make the most authentic to the original lever actions of that era
 

ugly

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#13
EX_STAB said:
ugly said:
Taurus make the most authentic to the original lever actions of that era
Well Marlin still make their 1894 model albeit in some slightly more modern chamberings. I reckon that's pretty authentic. Don't think Taurus were in business back then.....



http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894Centerfire/1894.asp
Agreed but Marlin werent an option 10 years ago whereas Taurus got in with Win 94 copies without any additional modern safeties.
Problem is many club guns are now complete rattlers but still good fun! :wink:
 
#14
ugly said:
EX_STAB said:
ugly said:
Taurus make the most authentic to the original lever actions of that era
Well Marlin still make their 1894 model albeit in some slightly more modern chamberings. I reckon that's pretty authentic. Don't think Taurus were in business back then.....



http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894Centerfire/1894.asp
Agreed but Marlin werent an option 10 years ago whereas Taurus got in with Win 94 copies without any additional modern safeties.
Problem is many club guns are now complete rattlers but still good fun! :wink:
Really? How so?
 
#15
EX_STAB said:
ugly said:
EX_STAB said:
ugly said:
Taurus make the most authentic to the original lever actions of that era
Well Marlin still make their 1894 model albeit in some slightly more modern chamberings. I reckon that's pretty authentic. Don't think Taurus were in business back then.....



http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/1894Centerfire/1894.asp
Agreed but Marlin werent an option 10 years ago whereas Taurus got in with Win 94 copies without any additional modern safeties.
Problem is many club guns are now complete rattlers but still good fun! :wink:
Really? How so?
My brother bought a Marlin .357 for his wife to shoot way back in the 80s and she was pretty good with it out to about 200mtr, she even put a scope on it, a good fun gun, with not to much recoil
 
#16
I'd choose a Marlin over an 'authentic' Rossi/Winnie/Taurus any day....

I used to own an 1894C in .357 mag, was great fun in bowling pin man on man comps.

The Rossis and Winnie derivatives always seemed to suffer jams when shooting rapid fire...but maybe part of that was down to the nut behind the butt ?
 
#17
steven04 said:
I'd choose a Marlin over an 'authentic' Rossi/Winnie/Taurus any day....

I used to own an 1894C in .357 mag, was great fun in bowling pin man on man comps.

The Rossis and Winnie derivatives always seemed to suffer jams when shooting rapid fire...but maybe part of that was down to the nut behind the butt ?
Everybody who's winning anything in 1500 centrefire uses a Marlin.
 
#18
EX_STAB said:
steven04 said:
I'd choose a Marlin over an 'authentic' Rossi/Winnie/Taurus any day....

I used to own an 1894C in .357 mag, was great fun in bowling pin man on man comps.

The Rossis and Winnie derivatives always seemed to suffer jams when shooting rapid fire...but maybe part of that was down to the nut behind the butt ?
Everybody who's winning anything in 1500 centrefire uses a Marlin.
It's a bit of a donkey when in 45/70 kicks like one too
 
#19
tropper66 said:
EX_STAB said:
steven04 said:
I'd choose a Marlin over an 'authentic' Rossi/Winnie/Taurus any day....

I used to own an 1894C in .357 mag, was great fun in bowling pin man on man comps.

The Rossis and Winnie derivatives always seemed to suffer jams when shooting rapid fire...but maybe part of that was down to the nut behind the butt ?
Everybody who's winning anything in 1500 centrefire uses a Marlin.
It's a bit of a donkey when in 45/70 kicks like one too
Crackin' brush gun in 45-70, a friend has one.
 

ugly

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#20
I'd use a Marlin myself but in 97 Taurus were more plentiful and cheaper, almost as if the importers had a copy of the act in draft.
I seem to vaguely recall a waiting list for wincheaters and marlins hence the plethora of compensation funded taurus. They also seemed to be ahead of the game on the long barreled revolvers.
 

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