YarS' anti-west Russian apologist thread

Isn't 40k set in a black dystopian world where fascism, racism, xenophobia and religion are mixed together under the banner of a central undead god like figure, where corruption and violence are.......oh......

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"It is clear from context" (c) not my. It is part of inner Sweden discussion about joining to the company of the future losers, or continue of being neutral.
It is about whether to join NATO or not. Just your translation is incorrect.
It is clear from context, that join to NATO will not increase Sweden chances to survive. As, NATO "defence" significantly decrease Tribaltic chances to survive.
That's your opinion.
 
It's not only my "ability". It's discipline, it's elementary basis of the any effective Army. You said that you was soldier and scalieback. Let's imagine, that Russia had start big offension in Afganistan. Your colonel had got order to slow movement of Russians by any price. His idea of defence against significally superior enemy is based on idea of the fake defence position and ambush by the main forces. To make a bait more realistic and attractive, he leave on the positions "platoon of imitation" - ten soldiers for visual imitation, ten soldiers for IR-imitation, ten soldiers for radio-imitation, three sergeants and one rupert. You is one of this group. If you will work good - Russians will buy you false position and kill you, but rest regiment will have a chance to slow Russian movement by the succesful ambush. If you will work bad, or you will be too nervouse and making mistakes, Russians will not buy it, they will search and found main forces and bomb them, but personally you will be captured alive.
What do you think about yourself and your comrades - is there a risk, that one of ten scaliebacks will be too nervouse and will make a seriouse mistake in his imitation of the radiowork?
I’ve got no problem with ‘forlorn hope’s’ or some sacrifices ‘for the greater good’. Your scenario is pants btw and shows a lack of military planning and the realities of modern warfare.

The point is that even in such circumstances I would be pissed off that my bunch of ‘contractniki’ were sacrificed for the Assad govt for no reason because the Russians didn’t tell us we were about to be attacked. Their attack was futile and the deaths prevented easily.

It also shows Russian military mentality and not being able to question orders. There’s a difference between a ‘worthwhile military sacrifice’ and a ‘worthless military failure’ and until you see that there is no hope for you.
 

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I’ve got no problem with ‘forlorn hope’s’ or some sacrifices ‘for the greater good’. Your scenario is pants btw and shows a lack of military planning and the realities of modern warfare.
I'm just a young sergeant of reserve, and I don't pretend to be great strategist.

The point is that even in such circumstances I would be pissed off that my bunch of ‘contractniki’ were sacrificed for the Assad govt for no reason because the Russians didn’t tell us we were about to be attacked. Their attack was futile and the deaths prevented easily.
Those guys had sign contract not with Russian, but with Assad's government (or even with local militias squad leader). They work for their employer. What's a problem?

It also shows Russian military mentality and not being able to question orders. There’s a difference between a ‘worthwhile military sacrifice’ and a ‘worthless military failure’ and until you see that there is no hope for you.
Of course we can ask questions, if orders are unclear. There are no need in useless questions if orders are clear. My dear civilian friend, soldier, usually, dont see difference between "worthless failure" and "worthwhile sacrifice" because he is already dead to this moment. Military discipline does not mean asking a stupid questions - you do, what your commanders tell to do.
 
I'm just a young sergeant of reserve, and I don't pretend to be great strategist.
You’re still in the Reserve?
Those guys had sign contract not with Russian, but with Assad's government (or even with local militias squad leader). They work for their employer. What's a problem?
It shows a different use of contractors. Imx in Afg and Iraq they do escort duties, protection jobs etc. They don’t act as a formed unit of soldiers per se using tanks etc. as in the Assad/Ukraine model. Part of any briefing before a job for western contractors will be an Int brief on the route, likely hazards, ‘actions on’ etc. Sometimes they use open source for these Int briefs. Sometimes it is given from coalition sources or other local sources.

The point being Russian contractors are being used as ‘soldiers’ rather than what western contractors are used for. The other point being a warning was given but this appears not to have been conveyed to the blokes on the ground. That erodes trust.
Of course we can ask questions, if orders are unclear. There are no need in useless questions if orders are clear.
It depends on the orders. If you’re happy to be a ‘forlorn hope’ for a Foreign govt good luck.
My dear civilian friend, soldier, usually, dont see difference between "worthless failure" and "worthwhile sacrifice" because he is already dead to this moment.
My dear civilian friend I agree ‘dead is dead’ I’m talking about how you will feel after your mates are killed and you find out they died needlessly because Information was not passed.
Military discipline does not mean asking a stupid questions - you do, what your commanders tell to do.
Which again shows a difference between understanding orders and their reason and blind obedience to them.
 

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You’re still in the Reserve?
Yes. As a sergeant I'll be in Reserve till 50 years old.

[quoteIt shows a different use of contractors. Imx in Afg and Iraq they do escort duties, protection jobs etc. They don’t act as a formed unit of soldiers per se using tanks etc. as in the Assad/Ukraine model. Part of any briefing before a job for western contractors will be an Int brief on the route, likely hazards, ‘actions on’ etc. Sometimes they use open source for these Int briefs. Sometimes it is given from coalition sources or other local sources.

The point being Russian contractors are being used as ‘soldiers’ rather than what western contractors are used for.[/quote]
Ha! Even 'soldiers' of regular NATO forces can not be used as 'soldiers' because of their low quality.
It depends on the orders. If you’re happy to be a ‘forlorn hope’ for a Foreign govt good luck.
Job is job, business is business.

My dear civilian friend I agree ‘dead is dead’ I’m talking about how you will feel after your mates are killed and you find out they died needlessly because Information was not passed.
And who said that their death was "needless"? They were fighting brave for the legal government against illegal intruders. Next group of "mercenaries" will have more weapon, vechicles, may be even copters. Yanks agree, that it is not affect inter-state relationships, so, there are no risk of big war even all those intruders will be eliminated.
Which again shows a difference between understanding orders and their reason and blind obedience to them.
Its show a difference between disciplined soldiers and degenerated biomass.
 
Yes. As a sergeant I'll be in Reserve till 50 years old.
poor Russia.
Ha! Even 'soldiers' of regular NATO forces can not be used as 'soldiers' because of their low quality.
If you’re representative of Russian conscripts now in the Reserves we have no problems.
Job is job, business is business.
Indeed. For mushrooms
And who said that their death was "needless"?
Me. If Russia had told them they could have stopped their advance and not died.
They were fighting brave for the legal government against illegal intruders.
Not illegal according to a unanimous UNSC Resolution. The ones that fought IS unlike those who ran away.
Next group of "mercenaries" will have more weapon, vechicles, may be even copters. Yanks agree, that it is not affect inter-state relationships, so, there are no risk of big war even all those intruders will be eliminated.
You mean when more Russian mercenaries die needlessly.
Its show a difference between disciplined soldiers and degenerated biomass.
It shows you have less brain cells than fungi
 

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@scalieback , all is simple. There will be no Yanks in Syria. "Party of peace" suggest to eliminate them with "mercenaries" or even allow to withdraw by themselves. "Party of war" suggest to eliminate them with regular forces (not only in Syria, but also in Europe, Asia and America).
 

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Me. If Russia had told them they could have stopped their advance and not died.
You are stupid animal. Why Russia should do it? If somebody want to kill Yanks - it is good.

Not illegal according to a unanimous UNSC Resolution.
You are stupid animal. Show me this resolution.
The ones that fought IS unlike those who ran away.
They "fought" them with giving them money and weapon? Another hypocrisy detected.
You mean when more Russian mercenaries die needlessly.
Nobody die needlessly.
 
@scalieback , all is simple. There will be no Yanks in Syria. "Party of peace" suggest to eliminate them with "mercenaries" or even allow to withdraw by themselves. "Party of war" suggest to eliminate them with regular forces (not only in Syria, but also in Europe, Asia and America).
Good luck with that. It just means more dead Russians
You are stupid animal. Why Russia should do it? If somebody want to kill Yanks - it is good.
Stupid amoeba. If Russia had passed the message on they would be alive to fight another day.
You are stupid animal. Show me this resolution.
Stupid dogshit, Russian google weak:
Security Council ‘Unequivocally’ Condemns ISIL Terrorist Attacks, Unanimously Adopting Text that Determines Extremist Group Poses ‘Unprecedented’ Threat | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases
“5. Calls upon Member States that have the capacity to do so to take all necessary measures, in compliance with international law, in particular with the United Nations Charter, as well as international human rights, refugee and humanitarian law, on the territory under the control of ISIL also known as Da’esh, in Syria and Iraq, to redouble and coordinate their efforts to prevent and suppress terrorist acts committed specifically by ISIL also known as Da’esh as well as ANF, and all other individuals, groups, undertakings, and entities associated with Al-Qaida, and other terrorist groups, as designated by the United Nations Security Council, and as may further be agreed by the International Syria Support Group (ISSG) and endorsed by the UN Security Council, pursuant to the statement of the International Syria Support Group (ISSG) of 14 November, and to eradicate the safe haven they have established over significant parts of Iraq and Syria;
Remind us when Russia turned up to the fight?
They "fought" them with giving them money and weapon? Another hypocrisy detected.
Trained, equipped and mentored.
Nobody die needlessly.
The Russian Mercs did.
 

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If Russia had passed the message on they would be alive to fight another day.
Russia is not occupant. We dont control Syrian Government. If Syrian government or local pro-government militia want to kill Yanks, Russia will not stop them.
Ok. Lets imagine, that you are ethnik Brit, with military skill "communications". You are not at service to the Crown, but you need some money. You are employed by Warchief of one of Arabic tribals to be his personal scalieback, and bear his new West-produced communication station. You had signed contract, got his money, you ate his food, you wear his clothes, you loyal to him.
He want to capture one oil plant, controlled by government forces and Russians.
Will you trait him, or you will use this opportunity to kill few Russians?
Where is mentioned, that Assad is not one and only legitime governor of Syria?
Trained, equipped and mentored.
Ha!
1. attack another country without UNSC permission;
2. train, equipe and mentor terrorists;
3. train, equipe and mentor more terrorists to fight first generation of them;
4. .....
5. Bomb them all!
6. PROFIT!!!!
The Russian Mercs did.
You think so. At least, they uncover system of Yanks defence, get info for better prepared next attack.
 

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This is all just edging around the point of this thread gentlemen
The 2 or 3 individuals posting as YarS are cnuts.
How do we know this? It’s simples - all Russians are cnuts. End of.
I thank you.
 
Russia is not occupant. We dont control Syrian Government.
All that blood and money and you have no say so? Really?
If Syrian government or local pro-government militia want to kill Yanks, Russia will not stop them.
The point is the yanks told Russia. Russia didn’t pass the message on or they did and it was ignored by whoever led the attack.
Ok. Lets imagine, that you are ethnik Brit, with military skill "communications". You are not at service to the Crown, but you need some money. You are employed by Warchief of one of Arabic tribals to be his personal scalieback, and bear his new West-produced communication station. You had signed contract, got his money, you ate his food, you wear his clothes, you loyal to him.
He want to capture one oil plant, controlled by government forces and Russians.
Will you trait him, or you will use this opportunity to kill few Russians?
As before, does this involve me going further forward than my laundry? Will my Kettle extension lead reach there?
Where is mentioned, that Assad is not one and only legitime governor of Syria?
You asked for the resolution. I gave you the Resolution.
Ha!
1. attack another country without UNSC permission;
Attack IS with unanimous UNSC Resolution
2. train, equipe and mentor terrorists;
Train equip and mentor the only force that wasn’t running away
3. train, equipe and mentor more terrorists to fight first generation of them;
That’s what Russia does with Iran and Hezbollah
4. .....
5. Bomb them all!
6. PROFIT!!!!
More wibble
You think so. At least, they uncover system of Yanks defence, get info for better prepared next attack.
We’ll see. More dead Russians for no purpose
 

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Somehow I don’t think the Kremlin’s patsies from the Wagner Company will be ‘straining at the leash’ if their social media postings are anything to go by.
Perhaps YarS should volunteer instead of trench dodging?

I wonder when the Apache gun cam video of all those Russians running away or frantically trying to dig shellscrapes with their fingernails during the ambush will be leaked?

Edit: I’m betting on it being leaked in time for the upcoming non-election in Russia
 
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All that blood and money and you have no say so? Really?
The point is the yanks told Russia. Russia didn’t pass the message on or they did and it was ignored by whoever led the attack.
Oh, my Lord! Russians have no any kind of hivemind or telepatic abilities. If HQ know something, it does not mean, that all other ethnic Russians will know it.

As before, does this involve me going further forward than my laundry? Will my Kettle extension lead reach there?
Actually I dont understand you, but your questions means that you have no any honor. In fact, it was almost rhetoric questions, with only one possible answer "I'll not trait my employer, especially if he going to suicidal attack against Russians".
We’ll see. More dead Russians for no purpose
And more dead Arabs, more refugees in EU, more raped she- and he-Eurbiomass, more terracts, more dead Brits to simple purpose - try to not allow Russians to control Middle East.
 
Oh, my Lord! Russians have no any kind of hivemind or telepatic abilities. If HQ know something, it does not mean, that all other ethnic Russians will know it.
That’s the point, they didn’t bother to pass the information on.
Actually I dont understand you, but your questions means that you have no any honor. In fact, it was almost rhetoric questions, with only one possible answer "I'll not trait my employer, especially if he going to suicidal attack against Russians".
You don’t understand Brit military humour. The point is would I as a Russian Merc be pissed off if my govt didn’t bother to tell me we were about to be attacked.
And more dead Arabs, more refugees in EU, more raped she- and he-Eurbiomass, more terracts, more dead Brits to simple purpose - try to not allow Russians to control Middle East.
Assad doesn’t want his refugees to return home. Remind us how much money Russia and Iran are giving the Assad govt and the money recently promised by the international community to the Iraqi govt.

Russia has plenty of religious terrorist offences. Only yesterday another it would seem
 

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That’s the point, they didn’t bother to pass the information on.
Why do you think, they would pass info for any ethnik Russian in Syria?

You don’t understand Brit military humour. The point is would I as a Russian Merc be pissed off if my govt didn’t bother to tell me we were about to be attacked.
Ok. Let's imagin that somebody from government service told you (and only for you, without transfering to Arabs, including your employer) that you are going to suicidal attack against well defended Russian positions. You can trait your government and transfer this info to Arabs. You can trait Arabs, and leave them alone in sucidal attack. Or you can recall what does mean word "honor" and join attack with full understanding that it is very high-risk action. What will you choose?

Assad doesn’t want his refugees to return home.
Sure. And majority of refugees don't want to return home. They are colonisators, too.

Russia has plenty of religious terrorist offences. Only yesterday another it would seem
Thats why we are fighting all of them. We are seriouse about this problem.
 
Why do you think, they would pass info for any ethnik Russian in Syria?
The point you repeatedly fail to understand or deny is whether as one of those Russian Mercs you would be pissed off if your country (or employers) didn’t pass that information on. Yes or no?
Ok. Let's imagin that somebody from government service told you (and only for you, without transfering to Arabs, including your employer) that you are going to suicidal attack against well defended Russian positions. You can trait your government and transfer this info to Arabs. You can trait Arabs, and leave them alone in sucidal attack. Or you can recall what does mean word "honor" and join attack with full understanding that it is very high-risk action. What will you choose?
I’m not sure anyone who raped a Chechen girl and then gave her some food is in any position to talk about honour. Note, English spelling
Sure. And majority of refugees don't want to return home. They are colonisators, too.
And so the circle goes on and the seven year civil war continues.
Thats why we are fighting all of them. We are seriouse about this problem.
You’d have thought you’d do do something about it then and look for a peace in Syria
 

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