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I wonder if the costs will be included as part of their future 2% contribution to defence.
The article says Poland has (just) reached its 2% of GDP, obligation.

"But Poland, which already meets the NATO-mandated goal of spending 2 percent of GDP on national defense by 2024 . . . ".

These new costs, assistance to the USA, is IN ADDITION to the 2% of GDP.
 

Looks like the “Victory” Corps will be returning to Europe. The Poles have managed to make themselves very attractive in short order.
Can we get some of that "assistance" to base UK troops in Poland ?! ;) .
 

Looks like the “Victory” Corps will be returning to Europe. The Poles have managed to make themselves very attractive in short order.
Looks like they have already had problems with Polish builders. They could probably get the 28,000 troops in South Korea too. Trump has demanded 5 times what Korea already pays. The Koreans have agreed to pay twice that, and have just spent 7 billion dollars building a brand new garrison at Camp Humpries. But the 'art of a deal maker' is not having it and still demands five times the cost. The Koreans have told him"feel free to leave whenever you want".
 
Looks like they have already had problems with Polish builders. They could probably get the 28,000 troops in South Korea too. Trump has demanded 5 times what Korea already pays. The Koreans have agreed to pay twice that, and have just spent 7 billion dollars building a brand new garrison at Camp Humpries. But the 'art of a deal maker' is not having it and still demands five times the cost. The Koreans have told him"feel free to leave whenever you want".
Truth be told, the ROK should be able to withstand and repel any conventional attack by the North at this point. Our presence serves to annoy the Chinese, and keep NK honest.
 
Truth be told, the ROK should be able to withstand and repel any conventional attack by the North at this point. Our presence serves to annoy the Chinese, and keep NK honest.
The ROK are well able to repel any conventional attack from the North. The problem would be stopping the ROK Generals heading for Pyongyang. The ROK has five Army Corps. For decades the US has only had one infantry division in Korea (2ID) which acted as a tripwire when it was stationed near the DMZ. Now most US forces have been withdrawn to Camp Humpries and Osan AB next door, 40 miles south of Seoul.
 
The ROK are well able to repel any conventional attack from the North. The problem would be stopping the ROK Generals heading for Pyongyang. The ROK has five Army Corps. For decades the US has only had one infantry division in Korea (2ID) which acted as a tripwire when it was stationed near the DMZ. Now most US forces have been withdrawn to Camp Humpries and Osan AB next door, 40 miles south of Seoul.
Yes, well out of range of the North’s massive conventional arty, which is nothing to sneer at. But the US only has a rotational armored brigade and the Division HQ, CAB, and a field Artillery Brigade under its control on Korea. Not quite the force it was before. Our commitment has been slowly winding down as well.
 
Yes, well out of range of the North’s massive conventional arty, which is nothing to sneer at. But the US only has a rotational armored brigade and the Division HQ, CAB, and a field Artillery Brigade under its control on Korea. Not quite the force it was before. Our commitment has been slowly winding down as well.
Really the US only needs to station USAF assets there. The US Army is not really needed except for the Apaches in the Aviation Brigades.
 
The ghosts of the past resurrected.

'The Army’s reactivated corps headquarters in Europe, called V Corps, will have a forward location in Poland, the Army chief of staff announced Tuesday.

'Gen. James McConville went to Poland this week to promote V Corps’ commander, Maj. Gen. John Kolasheski, to the rank of lieutenant general and officially unfurl the headquarters’ flag. Kolasheski last commanded the 1st Infantry Division.

'About 630 soldiers assigned to V Corps will be located at Fort Knox, Kentucky. Another 200 troops will be assigned to Poland on a rotational basis.

'An Army Europe official told Army Times the service is still “unaware of the exact location” that V Corps will be set up in the country, and could “only confirm that it will be in Poland.” Before its deactivation seven years ago, V Corps was based in Germany.

'The first command post rotation is expected to start in fiscal 2021. V Corps’ primary mission will be operational planning, mission command and oversight of the rotational forces in Europe.'


 
Apparently when the first British troops from Germany went to train in Poland in the early nineties after the fall of the USSR, the Poles had signs up at the entrance to the training area saying 'Fifty years too late'.
 
Now Hair Furor says Belgium and Italy must pay...

An interesting bit of potential blackmail, given that they are two of the countries specifically mentioned as locations for the permanent stationing of troops withdrawn from Germany. Another Trump administration failure to join the dots?
 
An interesting bit of potential blackmail, given that they are two of the countries specifically mentioned as locations for the permanent stationing of troops withdrawn from Germany. Another Trump administration failure to join the dots?
If Belgium bows to US pressure that could be the belgian armed forces' saving grace.

They keep on being reduced, several 1000s of BEL servicemen will be pensioned off in the coming years (no less than 41% of the total strength will retire between 2019 and 2024!!!), recruitment and pay are terribly bad and nobody in Belgium sees a need for the armed forces.
 
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If Belgium bows to US pressure that could be the belgian armed forces' saving grace.

They keep on being reduced, several 1000s of BEL servicemen will be pensioned off in the coming years (no less than 41% of the total strength will retire between 2019 and 2024!!!), recruitment and pay are terribly bad and nobody in Belgium sees a need for the armed forces.
And retention is pretty much non-existent because of the years spent doing internal counter-terrorism security, often quartered in terrible accommodation including police cells, to the detriment of any other training.

But when 'nobody in Belgium sees a need for the armed forces', it will be very difficult to increase defence spending, particularly given the ongoing economic damage COVID-19 is doing.
 
And retention is pretty much non-existent because of the years spent doing internal counter-terrorism security, often quartered in terrible accommodation including police cells, to the detriment of any other training.

But when 'nobody in Belgium sees a need for the armed forces', it will be very difficult to increase defence spending, particularly given the ongoing economic damage COVID-19 is doing.
There are some interesting stories of fit BEL soldiers shagging female Police Fédérale officers during Op Vigilant Guardian...there were some compensation for bad housing conditions !
 

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As NATO's European allies (currently) share no international border with Russia, any deployment of ground forces into Bulgaria or Romania is largely window-dressing.
I believe that statement will come as a surprise to the Norwegians whose northern border is against Russia and whose Telemark region was liberated by the Red Army during WWII. Additionally, if you consider Kaliningrad Russia (and Putin does even if the west doesn’t), then Poland and Lithuania share a border, along with Latvia and Estonia who directly abut with Russia in the St Petersburg Oblast.
 
I believe that statement will come as a surprise to the Norwegians whose northern border is against Russia and whose Telemark region was liberated by the Red Army during WWII. Additionally, if you consider Kaliningrad (to be) Russia (and Putin does even if the west doesn’t), then Poland and Lithuania share a border, along with Latvia and Estonia who directly abut with Russia in the St Petersburg Oblast.
Errr . . . . who is it that does NOT consider Kaliningrad to be Russian ?!
 
I believe that statement will come as a surprise to the Norwegians whose northern border is against Russia and whose Telemark region was liberated by the Red Army during WWII. Additionally, if you consider Kaliningrad Russia (and Putin does even if the west doesn’t), then Poland and Lithuania share a border, along with Latvia and Estonia who directly abut with Russia in the St Petersburg Oblast.
Mea culpa. You are, of course, quite right. I had omitted in haste to qualify with the word 'southern' regarding European allies.
 
An update on HQ (US) V Corps.

'The U.S. Army's V Corps' headquarters in Europe will be at Poznan, in western Poland, the Army announced on Wednesday.

'Although Poland no longer shares a border with Russia, the forward position in Poznan, a city of about 535,000 people and a history dating to medieval times, will place U.S. troops within 200 miles of the Poland-Belarus border.

'The first rotation of personnel is expected in October, with a mission to conduct operational planning, mission command and oversight of the rotational forces in Europe. It will also provide additional capability to support allies and partners in the region.

"We have a strong relationship with our Polish allies and appreciate the outstanding support they provide to our rotational soldiers," Lt. Gen. John. S. Kolasheski, V Corps commanding general, said in a press release.

"As we stand up the V Corps forward command post in Poznan we look forward to strengthening that relationship as we work together to build readiness and enhance interoperability between our militaries and those of our allies and partners," Kolasheski said.

'The new forward command post is part of an Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) between Poland and the United States, finalized on July 31. The U.S. embassy in Warsaw in August announced that about 200 Army personnel will form the post. The EDCA enables a troop presence of about 1,000 personnel, in addition to about 4,500 troops already stationed in Poland.'


 

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