WWII British Inf Brigade HQ Staffing Levels?

#1
I've recently found out that I had a grandfather who served in the Jewish Brigade HQ (I will hopefully be give his medal soon to look after as well). After the war he was awarded an MBE for his efforts.
As far as I know he started the war as a TA second lieutenant and finished as a temporary Major at the HQ. He was infantry (either Loyal North Lancs or East Lancs I can't remember which).
What I would like to know, in an effort to try and ascertain what his position was, is the make up of a typical inf brigade HQ during WWII.
If anyone could help it would be much appreciated.
 
#5
Jesus, that would make the Estimate & Planning cycle fun.
As you can see by the Cdn 1944 one I added the Bde HQ had increased in size, 14 officers rather than 6 (excluding chaplains), with the addition of a couple of liaison officers and two more staff officers and a camp commandant. There would also normally be a defence platoon and a R SIGS detachment attached.
 
#7
Here's a slightly different take from another reference. Bear in mind that this is for a brigade within a division, independent ones had extra staff appointments.

HEADQUARTERS OF AN INFANTRY BRIGADE IN AN INFANTRY DIVISION
War Establishment II/141/2. January 1944.

Brigadier, Commander

Staff
Brigade Major
Captain, GSO3
Staff Captain
Captain Liaison Officer
2 X Lieutenant Liaison Officer
serjeant clerk
corporal clerk
2 X clerk

Services
Captain RASC
corporal clerk RASC
batman driver RASC
orderly RASC
Brigade Ordnance Warrant Officer RAOC
Captain REME
Warrant Officer Armourer REME
2 X serjeant armourer REME
Warrant Officer tyre repair plant operator REME
corporal vehicle mechanic REME
2 X vehicle mechanic REME

Miscellaneous
Captain, Intelligence and Gas Duties
Captain, Transport
Subaltern, Camp Commandant
Company Serjeant Major
company quartermaster serjeant
transport serjeant
intelligence serjeant
intelligence corporal
intelligence lance corporal
corporal driver IC
lance corporal driver IC
4 X private driver IC
10 X orderly
2 X batman
12 X batman driver
sanitary dutyman

Attached
3 X chaplain
corporal cook ACC
cook, officers mess ACC
2 X cook ACC

Vehicles
4 X motorcycle
3 X car 2seater 4 X 2
3 X car 4 seater
6 X car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
1 X 15cwt GS
1 X 15cwt Water
1 X 15cwt Office
1 X 15cwt personnel
3 X lorry 3ton 4 X 4 GS

By 1945 the 15cwt Office was replaced by a 3ton 4 X 4 Office

Total weapons
14 X pistol
21 X Sten gun
4 X Bren lmg
37 X rifle

By 1945 10 X rifle were deleted and 5 X Sten gun added


Organisation
The Command Group.
This contained only the personnel and vehicles required to command and control an action.

Lorry Command Vehicle LP 1 (Royal Signals)
corporal operator, 2 X operator, driver mechanic
Carries Wireless set No19 and Wireless set No 19 HP
Carries Bren lmg
This vehicle is for forward control and rear link to Main Division.
In action the Brigadier, Brigade Major and GSO3 have seats in this vehicle.

Lorry Command Vehicle LP 2 (Royal Signals)
corporal operator, 2 X operator, driver mechanic
Carries Wirele set No19 and Wireless set No19HP
This vehicle is for service control and rear link to Rear Division.
In action the Staff Captain has a seat in this vehicle.

15cwt 4 X 4 personnel 4 (Royal Signals)
operator, driver operator
Carries Wireless set No 19 and No 19 HP
This vehicle is for brigade commander’s reconnaissance

Car 4 seater 4 X 4 (Humber FWD).
Brigadier, Brigade Major, batman, driver IC
Carries Wireless set No 22 from Divisional Signals
This vehicle can be used as the normal out of action transport for the Brigadier, and as the Brigadiers office or sleeping vehicle.

Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
Captain liaison officer, batman driver
Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
Subaltern liaison officer, batman driver
Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
Subaltern liaison officer, batman driver

Staff Group.
This group may be further back than the command group and was responsible for implementing the brigadiers decisions and co ordinating the plan.
Car 4 seater 4 X 4 (Humber FWD).
Staff Captain, batman, batman driver
Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
GSO3, batman driver
15cwt truck GS
Intelligence Officer, intelligence serjeant, intelligence coporal, intelligence lance corporal, batman
driver
Carries Bren lmg

Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
Transport Officer, batman driver
Motorcycle 1
transport serjeant
Motorcycle 2
Brigade Ordnance Warrant Officer

Car 4 seater 4 X 4 (Humber FWD).
Captain RASC, corporal clerk RASC, batman driver RASC
Motorcycle 3
orderly RASC

Car 5cwt 4 X 4 (jeep)
Captain REME, batman driver

15cwt Office
staff serjeant clerk, clerk, batman driver
15cwt personnel
Company Serjeant Major, corporal clerk, orderly, driver IC
Carries Bren lmg

The Administrative Group.

Motorcycle 4
Camp Commandant

15cwt water truck
sanitary dutyman, driver IC
The driver IC is trained in water duties

3ton lorry 4 X 4 GS
clerk, driver IC
Carries petrol
3ton lorry 4 X 4 GS
company quartermaster serjeant, corporal cook ACC, 3 X cook ACC, 3 X orderly, driver IC
Carries cooking sets and rations
Carries Bren lmg
The driver IC is trained in water duties
3ton lorry 4 X 4 GS
operator REME, WO armourer REME, serjeant armourer REME, armourer REME, corporal vehicle
mechanic REME, vehicle mechanic REME, driver IC

Note:
Six orderlies are attached to Divisional Signals and are carried in the transport of that unit.



INFANTRY BRIGADE HEADQUARTERS DEFENCE PLATOON
War Establishment II/148/1. November 1943
War Establishment II/148/2. April 1945

This unit was responsible for the defence of the Brigade Headquarters area. It was commanded by the Camp Commandant.

serjeant
3 X corporal
18 X rifleman
3 X driver IC
driver mechanic
motorcyclist
2 X cook ACC

Headquarters
Motorcycle
motorcyclist
15cwt truck GS
serjeant, 2 X cook, driver mechanic
Carries baggage and supplies

section
15cwt truck GS
corporal, 6 X private, driver IC

section
15cwt truck GS
corporal, 6 X private, driver IC

section
15cwt truck GS
corporal, 6 X private, driver IC
 
#11
During the course of the war the RA deployment pattern evolved, and in the second half of the war you'd generally find the field regt CO a short distance from the brigade comd. Obviously this wasn't reflected on the field regiment establishment and there may not have been any RA presence (at least from the field regt) when the CO and commander were out and about. Then there was an anti-tank bty comd, if the bde had a bty assigned from the divisonal regt then the BC may well have based himself at bde HQ, same applies to LAA.
 
#13
During the course of the war the RA deployment pattern evolved, and in the second half of the war you'd generally find the field regt CO a short distance from the brigade comd. Obviously this wasn't reflected on the field regiment establishment and there may not have been any RA presence (at least from the field regt) when the CO and commander were out and about. Then there was an anti-tank bty comd, if the bde had a bty assigned from the divisonal regt then the BC may well have based himself at bde HQ, same applies to LAA.
I think there is. The establishment table on Nigel Evans, well researched, web site shows a quite a few vehicles in the RHQ Party including the CO and a couple of R Signals communications vehicles, including a 15cwt which isn't likely to be following the Co around. He also has a subaltern who he can leave as an LO. These are separate from the Adjutants group and the RHQ Group. This looks like enough vehicles and radios to have a "Tac group" at Brigade HQ and an "FDC"
 
#14
As a follow up, I have just received his MBE citation from the National Archives and it turns out that he was the DAA/QMG for the Jewish Brigade.
It would be very helpful if someone could give me the correct definition of 'DAA' and 'QMG' as obviously he wasn't the Quartermaster General!
All help would be much appreciated.
 
#15
As a follow up, I have just received his MBE citation from the National Archives and it turns out that he was the DAA/QMG for the Jewish Brigade.
It would be very helpful if someone could give me the correct definition of 'DAA' and 'QMG' as obviously he wasn't the Quartermaster General!
All help would be much appreciated.
I think that would have made him the second senior staff officer in the Brigade. He would be responsible for Personnel and Administration (G1 = Assistant Adjutant) and Logistics (G4 = Quartermaster General). In the 1980s the title was Deputy Chief of Staff (DCOS)
 
#17
#19
Cheers. The QMG threw me a bit because of today's more 'real' titles. Obviously it was Quarter Master 'something'. But General? For a temporary major?
The equivalent at divisional level, a lt-col, was called the AA & QMG, or Assistant Adjutant & Quartermaster General. So this guy was the Deputy Assistant, which is a modifier to both. The AA & QMG's subordinates at Div HQ, both majors, were the DAAG (covering what would now be called G1 matters) and DAQMG (covering G4 matters).