WW2 FW190 Found. Fake or Real?

#2
This film is about 20 years old!

The 190 concerned I believe is now with Paul Allen of Microsoft It is very very real. I know, I've touched it :D
It was in such good condition the tyres still held pressure, and the POL tests showed that the oil and fuel could have been used again.

The Pilot went E+E but is still listed as missing.
 
#3
righthandmarker said:
Thought it was a fake at first, but not so sure now.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=066_1232643827
The year before last they found a Sunderland about 50 mtrs from the shore in Milford Haven only about 20 mtrs from the dredged channel, It was just forgotten. There are now plans to remove it and rebuild,I have it on good authoraty that there are still thousands of ww2 aircraft unaccounted for in Europe. Theres even an unsalveged Spitfire stuck into the the north face of Pen y Fan it was there for 9 months before being found, the pilots body was removed but it was deemed to dangerous to recover the airframe as the rock face is unstable.
 
#4
PartTimePongo said:
This film is about 20 years old!

The 190 concerned I believe is now with Paul Allen of Microsoft It is very very real. I know, I've touched it :D
It was in such good condition the tyres still held pressure, and the POL tests showed that the oil and fuel could have been used again.

The Pilot went E+E but is still listed as missing.
Thanks for that PTP, fascinating stuff.
 
#6
When I was in NI in the 70s They dug up the BARRACUDA that is now in Yovilton, from a bog near Maydown outside Londonderry, the crew where still in it, that caused quite a problem as the familys had been given their remaines in 1943 it made front page news.
 
#7
PartTimePongo said:
This film is about 20 years old!

The 190 concerned I believe is now with Paul Allen of Microsoft It is very very real. I know, I've touched it :D
It was in such good condition the tyres still held pressure, and the POL tests showed that the oil and fuel could have been used again.

The Pilot went E+E but is still listed as missing.
Was it on display at the Museum of Flight here in Seattle? (Paul Allen's home)
 
#8
Paul Allen lent his yacht to Mike Rossiter to do underwater filming of the wreck of the Ark Royal a few years ago seems an interesting bloke see "Ark Royal" Corgi Books
 
#9
You could always ask the Booties at Condor to recover the Mossies that were buried around the airfield at the end of the war.
 
#10
tiger stacker said:
You could always ask the Booties at Condor to recover the Mossies that were buried around the airfield at the end of the war.
Is this one true? I had heard it was urban myth along the lines of theres a large cavern full of panzers under the square in Bradbury Barracks in Krefeld (there isnt!).

I would have to wonder why they would bury the planes. At the end of the war Britain was hungry for raw materials of all kinds - i'd have thought they would have re-cycled the aluminium etc.
 
#11
Well a bootie did tell the story, in his defense he did mention metal detectors and side looking radar. Am sure some of the older members of the RAF can say yay or nay
 
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#12
A large number of new airframes were stored on northern airfields, as the manufacturers completed them. Other Scottish airfields held large numbers of low-time Halifaxes. At the end of the war, according to numerous sources, they were bulldozed into holes in the ground, as there was neither the need nor resources to get them dismantled.

Since the Mosquito is largely timber, there'd be little point in dismantling it, and as the only large user of Merlin engines was in the process of downsizing there was little need for them.
 
#13
boney_m said:
tiger stacker said:
You could always ask the Booties at Condor to recover the Mossies that were buried around the airfield at the end of the war.
Is this one true? I had heard it was urban myth along the lines of theres a large cavern full of panzers under the square in Bradbury Barracks in Krefeld (there isnt!).

I would have to wonder why they would bury the planes. At the end of the war Britain was hungry for raw materials of all kinds - i'd have thought they would have re-cycled the aluminium etc.
Most redundant equipment was recycled, lots of aircraft were stored at places like Silloth airfield in Cumbria at the end of the war, locals who were around at the time reckon the place was over flowing with allsorts of aircraft for quite some time.
Eaglescliff over in Durham was a dedicated recycling plant that operated during the war to dismantle crashed and damaged aircraft and re-smelt aluminium etc. When the RN gave up the place a few years ago they had to shift container loads of contaminated topsoil to Drigg from the area used to burn off un-recyclable bits. They still dig up aircraft parts from the back part of the site and some of those parts have gone to restoration projects around the world.
The quantity of surplus war material lying around the county in 1945 must have been vast and it is likely that some was dumped simply to save the effort of dealing with it properly.
 
#14
When I was a kid there were hundreds of airframes at Beggers Pound At the back of RAF ST Athen and it only ceased as a scrap yard a few years ago. at one time there were about a dozen Vulcans there. My cousen bought onr and kept it at the aircraft museum at Rhoose until he was forced to get rid of it due to the expansion of the airfield
 
#15
tiger stacker said:
Well a bootie did tell the story, in his defense he did mention metal detectors and side looking radar. Am sure some of the older members of the RAF can say yay or nay
Condor near Arbroath was a Naval Airfield not RAF. Mosquitos did not operate from there, anyway the four runways were too short for a fully loaded Mossie to operate from. There was one instance of a Leuchars based BOAC Mosquito carrying ball bearings from Sweden crashlanding in fog at Condor in 1944. THe cargo, Engines and some other parts were salvaged and the wooden airframe was dragged off into a dispersal pen and burned.
 
#16
I stand corrected :oops:

I did say it was a member of that fine naval expeditionary force that told the tale though.
 
#17
tiger stacker said:
I stand corrected :oops:

I did say it was a member of that fine naval expeditionary force that told the tale though.
None better at swinging the lamp in my long experience which is why one of my legs is longer than the other..... :D
 
#18
Mosquitos would have been burnt out in situ after the Merlins were hacked off.

High Ercall in Shropshire was another big disposal base as was Lichfield. There are photos of High Ercall in '46 and '47 with every spare inch crammed with airframes for disposal. Airframes were flown in, or freighted in via a rail track since removed, engines hacked off and buried, aircraft reduced to ingots in most places. There are still traces of the pits if you know where to look.

Rumours abound about Shawbury, and the secret Cornish airfield , ditto for Colerne. Colerne is a very persistent rumour.

I think you've more chance of finding buried airframes in Germany, or North African airfields , though they may well still exist in the UK.

Personally if I found a pit full of burnt aircraft instruments,I'd be steering well clear.
 
#19
tropper66 said:
When I was in NI in the 70s They dug up the BARRACUDA that is now in Yovilton, from a bog near Maydown outside Londonderry, the crew where still in it, that caused quite a problem as the familys had been given their remaines in 1943 it made front page news.
A Wildcat came out of Lough Neagh? some years ago, rebuilt by the Belfast Aviation Society IIRC.

There are the remains of a Corsair seen by numerous AAC crews in NI , can't be lifted though. Although it was an FAA ditching , it was lend-lease and belongs to the USN , who operate a blanket policy of '"Leave them where they are"
 
#20
Back in the 70s they lifted about thre airframes out from the lough I remember going out to the corsair though, by boat once
 

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