WW2 Abbreviations help needed

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  1. My Father in law is doing some work on his father's War Diary from 1941. He was a member of 9th (Minden) Heavy Battery 5 Regt RA. It seems he was in Aden in Feb - May 1941. We are stuck on some of the abbreviations used and are looking to the massed minds of ARRSE - especially those with a RA history - to help out.

    ALD
    BCA
    BCO
    BDRA
    BOP
    BRA
    BRAA
    CCS
    CD
    DEL
    DRF
    EI
    FFI
    JG
    LBW
    MBW
    PAD
    PF
    QE
    SA
    SAAI
    SI
    SL
    TE Test
     
  2. SAAI = Skill At Arms Instructor?

    It might be beneficial if you could give us a bit of context, if available, Legs.
     
  3. BCA - Battery Commanders Assistant (bit like an Adjt)
    DRF - Depression Range Finder
     
  4. QE - Quadrant elevation...

    The angle between the horizontal and the barrel of a gun...

    (Tangent elevation (the angle given to achieve range) + AoS (Angle of sight))

    .. why do I remember this guff?

    Edited to correct poor recolletive powers ( not as good as I thought I was..)
     
  5. BOP - Battery Observation Post ??
    CCS - Casualty Clearing Station
    CD - Commissioned ??
    SL - Searchlight
     
  6. LBW - Leg Before Wicket

    CD - Compact Disc
     
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  7. ALD = Alternative Location Decider (map)
    BCA = Blank Cartridge Accumulator (the floor)
    BCO = Blank Cartridge Organiser (magazine)
    BDRA = Broken/Destroyed Regimental Asset (duff kit)
    BOP = dance
    BRA = what you try to undo at a dance
    BRAA! = what you say when you see one, drooling
    CCS = Civillian Catering Section ( the char wallah)
    CD = Catering Detatchment (the ACC)
    DEL = the Battery spiv
    DRF = Direction Range Finder (the ruler in the map box)
    EI = Equipment Invisibility (the QMs stores)
    FFI = Fast Food Index (the menu in the char wallah's hut)
    JG = Joint Games (playing the RAF at cricket)
    LBW = What the sneaky RAF types try to do to save the day.
    MBW = Member Before Wicket (what happens to them if they do it twice)
    PAD = worn on the legs to avoid pain in the event of LBW
    PF = Pavillion Fraternization (tea after the match)
    QE = Queen's English (spoken by officers)
    SA = Sarflahndan Accent (spoken by some ORs)
    SAAI = Sound Anti Aircraft Indicator (instruction to wind up the siren)
    SI = Sanctimonious Infidel (what the local Aden types probably thought of your Dad's mob
    SL = Smelly Local (what your Dad's outfit probably thought of them)

    ...sorry , I was bored, and was just imagining a world (today's) where we seem to need long and complicated sets of initials to describe simple things, superimposed on wartime service overseas.

    Hope you didn't mind, and good luck in deciphering the diary.
     
  8. Ravers

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    Anyone know what HFP stands/stood for? I have an old WWII steel helmet (civvy type as worn by police ARP etc) with it written on.
     
  9. CD - Canal Defence? (As in Canal Defence Light - a very powerful carbide lamp in a modified tank turret to provide artificial daylight for night ops)
     
  10. FFI : Free From Infection
     
  11. BRA - Brigadier Royal Artillery

    PAD - Passive Air Defence

    CD - have a suspicion that this is Chemical Defence - certainly Porton Down, for example, was the CD Experimental Station. The other, less likely, is Camouflage Development, since there was the CD&TC - Camouflage Development & Training Centre.
    (Petriburg is right on CDL but in 1941 that was a classified project unlikely to make it into a Gunners' War Diary.)

    EDIT - I am an idiot; CD, particularly for RA at this stage of the war and in Aden, is most probably Coast Defence.

    BDRA - a bit of a guess, but could just possibly be Base Defence Royal Artillery - there was a table of establishment in 1939 formally entitled Base Defence Anti-Aircraft - basically semi-static Batteries with 3.7". Which would be again be appropriate for Aden.
     
  12. ALD - Anti-submarine Loop Detector
    CD - Coastal Defence, also associated with CB (Counter Bombardment)
     
  13. Helmet, F... all Protection
     
  14. BDRA - Base Depot Royal Artillery. Transit camp for all arrivals/departures Middle East theatre at Almaza, just outside Cairo.
     
  15. Obviously Coast Defence is the place to start (what else would a gunner be doing in Aden at that time?)

    From the abbreviations listed in 'The History of Coast Artillery in the British Army' Col KW Maurice-Jones, 1957.

    BRA - Brigadier Royal Artillery
    CD - Coast Defence
    DEL - Defence Electric Light
    DRF - Depression Range Finder
    JG - possibly IG? - Instructor in Gunnery
    PF - Position Finder

    Next stop 'Royal Artillery Glossary of Temrs and Abbreviations Historical and Modern', Philip Jobson (he posts on this site), 2008

    BCA - Battery Commander's Assistant
    CCS - Casualty Clearing Station
    EI may be El - Elevation
    PAD - Passive Air Defence, but I'm not sure about this in 1941
    QE - Quadrant Elevation
    SA - Small Arms or Semi Automatic
    SAAI - Skill At Arms Instructor
    SI - Senior Instructor (unless its Sl searchlight)
    SL - Searchlight
    TE - Tangent Elevation

    Probably need to dig into Coast Artillery Training pamphlets for the others, although some may be equipment specific so you need the handbook. The 'Defended Port of Aden' (9th heavy Battery RA) had 4 x 6-inch guns.