WW I Trendsetters !

Discussion in 'Military History and Militaria' started by jonwilly, May 11, 2008.

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  1. Gents one poster, a Gunner I will suggest, has stared using the following as his Signiture,

    "Colonel Georg Bruchmuller
    Imperial German Army Artillery Officer and Father of Modern Fire Support"

    Memory says, Yes Bruchmuller was one of the modern fathers of Artillery procedures in Battle, but then there where Two other Germans, from same war, one who was father of defence, the Chequer board system of interlocking support and the other 'Chappy' who gave us, Them, the Stormtrooper infiltration tactics, that eventually became Blitzkrieg, I suppose.
    Von Lossendorff was one, but which was his subject, my memory fails me and who was the other ? Baffled lost.
    john
     
  2. von Hutier?

    No.9
     
  3. Do you mean Ernst Junger, or is this just an artillery thing?
     
  4. Ta No 9
    von Hutier, was the name of the Third of the influential German commanders, I had read about in some artical years ago.
    john
     
  5. Glad it was of use John. I have him mentioned, together with Bruchmuller as his Chief of Artillery, in connection with first (they say) employment of these combined tactics in the Battle of Riga, 01 Sep 1917, against the Russians. The book is not about either of them, but the bibliography sites ‘On Artillery’ by Gudmundsson, and 'Steel Wind’ by Zabecki. I know nothing about these but a quick look-up showed Zabecki’s book fully titled as 'Steel Wind: Colonel Georg Bruchmuller and the Birth of Modern Artillery'.
    :?
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  6. Ah now my heed hurts.
    Bruchmuller and Hutier where the Gunners who sorted out the artillery tactics.
    I remember von Lossenberg from a book on Rommel that stated it was his tactics that where used in defence at el Alemain, that is close interlocking fields of fire supported by local troops ready to counter attack any enemy successful penetration.
    john
     
  7. Ah now my heed hurts.
    Bruchmuller and Hutier where the Gunners who sorted out the artillery tactics.
    I remember von Lossenberg from a book on Rommel that stated it was his tactics that where used in defence at el Alemain, that is close interlocking fields of fire supported by local troops ready to counter attack any enemy successful penetration.
    john
     
  8. Wow, double posting John. It that the DTs or short term memory old son? :mrgreen:

    Coincidentally my book brings in Rommel a lot, but in connection with the Wurttemberg Mountain Battalion and the battles of and after Caporetto. Hopefully we’ll get some artillery aficionados posting to shed light.

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  9. Old Age.
    john
    Actually I think the double post is a Arrse internal fault, I am not the only poster who has had this problem.
     
  10. Lossberg was the defensive specialist who masterminded the German defensive strategy for Flanders in 1917.

    One judge of recognition is that the German Reichswehr named the bunkers on the Munsterlager ranges after their great generals. So there was Hindenberg, Ludendorf and Lossberg.

    Huiter and Brauchmuller don't get a mention. I think the book that makes them heroes is Corelli Barnett's the swordbearers
     
  11. Hello,

    Rommel's "Infanterie Greift An" is well worth reading,a very accessible book too unlike many more scholarly tomes.

    Didn't the "Hutier system" also include feeding forces into the point of attack fro different directions to avoid logjams on the approaches?
    I think it was used during the Kaiserschlacht.


    tangosix.