Wronguns in the family

#1
Currently compiling my family tree for my little lad, half Pom/paddy (me) and seventh generation Aussie (the ex).

Have somewhat mixed feelings to find a few of his ancestors did not come here of their own free will.

Any other Arsers with a few glitches in the family tree?

Ps Does anybody live near Ashton in Makerfield?


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#6
Apparently one of my Great Grandfathers wasn't born in Scotland before settling in Cardiff to work on the docks. According to a cousin who did some family tree research he'd fled Ireland under a cloud to Glasgow (again working on the docks), before heading south to sunnier climes.

I've no idea what he'd done to bug out of Ireland. And I'm not sure whether I'm more ashamed that he did something wrong to warrent his running away, or the fact that he was Irish.
 
#8
I got my family tree as far aback as the 16th Century(1570), Staplehurst Kent, means Im a southern softy shandy drinker :/
 
#12
Eh? Though you Ring Bolt Passengers regarded scruffy crims in your ancestry as a source of pride.
 
#15
Currently compiling my family tree for my little lad, half Pom/paddy (me) and seventh generation Aussie (the ex).

Have somewhat mixed feelings to find a few of his ancestors did not come here of their own free will.

Any other Arsers with a few glitches in the family tree?

Ps Does anybody live near Ashton in Makerfield?


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By today's standards that doesn't necesarily make them bad people. Take a good look through one of my favourite websites: Old Bailey Online - The Proceedings of the Old Bailey, 1674-1913 - Central Criminal Court it's the old-time records of the Central Criminal Court, the Old Bailey. You'll soon find that people got transportation for all many of petty offences that would just get them a caution today. More serious offences would mostly get people hung, drawn & quartered, branded and even burned at the stake! (Sometimes).

One aspect of these records that seems to jump out to me is that if someone's occupation is given as "gentleman" or something professional then they are far more likely to get a Not-Guilty verdict. So I thnk it's a safe bet that your ancestors were some sort of working class pessant commoner type. But not necessarily bad. Had they been "rotten to the core" evil types, it more likely they would have been hung instead.

I hope this helps, but take a good look at the Old Bailey site as it's interesting in it's own right anyway.
 

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#16
One aspect of these records that seems to jump out to me is that if someone's occupation is given as "gentleman" or something professional then they are far more likely to get a Not-Guilty verdict.
Pretty well the reason I am able to walk out of my front door of a morning, take a deep breath, stretch and grin.

My family tree is perfect. Daddy sorted it back in the 50's. He had a post at the Min of Ag & Fisheries.
 
#17
Yeah, well. We all have our dark secrets, eh? F'rinstance my dad was born in Middlesex.
Is he one of the Middlesex Patel's or Middlesex Choudary's?
 
#19
Yeah, well. We all have our dark secrets, eh? F'rinstance my dad was born in Middlesex.
So was Elton John, one and the same? We should be told.
 
#20
Some second cousin or other was interned.

At Mum's we've a framed sack cloth he tailored with a beautifully stitched tethered bird of some sort and the usual 'no surrender' stuff under it, he should have jacked in the pissing about and took up art.
 
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