Written Proof of a Commission?

#1
If a Commission is gained and then retired etc., what written confirmation of it's existence is available? Oh, and where from?

Thanks
 
#2
Rapier said:
If a Commission is gained and then retired etc., what written confirmation of it's existence is available? Oh, and where from?

Thanks
Don't you get to keep the actual commission document then? Not sure about what happens now but warant officers and commissioned officers did get given the actual warrant/commission from the Queen.

I don't think (but do not know as fact) that you was required to hand them back upon leaving.
 
#4
Perturbed said:
Rapier said:
If a Commission is gained and then retired etc., what written confirmation of it's existence is available? Oh, and where from?

Thanks
Don't you get to keep the actual commission document then? Not sure about what happens now but warant officers and commissioned officers did get given the actual warrant/commission from the Queen.

I don't think (but do not know as fact) that you was required to hand them back upon leaving.
What other letter from the Queen do you hang on your lavatory wall?
 
#5
Perturbed said:
I don't think (but do not know as fact) that you was required to hand them back upon leaving.
I'm not sure if you hand your last one back but I do know that, upon converting my SSC commission, I was required to sign and return my old one and new one was issued dated from the beginning of the new commission which made it look I was a sprog again!

I do not know how general a rule this is but it cannot always have been so since I have my grandfather's commission in my possession.
 
#6
We don't recall him ever being given a Commissioning letter/cert or whatever, on leaving RMAS and just want something in writting to say he actually served.

(The he is my son, who now lives overseas).
 
#7
If I recall rightly, there was a period of hiatus in issuing them (they generally arrive many, many months after the event) during which the backlog became so great that a whole load of guys were told that they wouldn't get one - ever!
 
#8
Rapier said:
We don't recall him ever being given a Commissioning letter/cert or whatever, on leaving RMAS and just want something in writting to say he actually served.

(The he is my son, who now lives overseas).
Your son will certainly remember his regimental number. Write to the MOD (don't know which particular bit but you can google for the right bit to write to) with your son's details, regimental number and Sandhurst dates and mention that he never received his commissioning certificate and one should get sent out.
 
#9
The London Gazette now has an online search function. Enter his full name, start the search from the time he was commissioned and you should get the page up in front of you in a few seconds. Job done.

His commission is probably in a similar situation as mine has been for the last 16 years- in a cardboard tube stuffed away somewhere in the parental home for "safekeeping". :D
 
#12
What about TA officers? I never received a certificate either. I note all the advice about writing to the MoD etc., but was/is there a different procedure for the Territorial Army?
 
#13
Purple_Flash said:
If I recall rightly, there was a period of hiatus in issuing them (they generally arrive many, many months after the event) during which the backlog became so great that a whole load of guys were told that they wouldn't get one - ever!
That is absolutely fcuking disgraceful. I cant believe that.
 
#15
I also never received a commissioning certificate, and know for a fact that a mate of mine on the same TACC (053) didnt either. Nothing was ever mentioned about it and it was generally assumed that they were given for regular commissions only. I'm intrigued as I would very much like one if entitled.
 
#16
angular said:
What about TA officers? I never received a certificate either. I note all the advice about writing to the MoD etc., but was/is there a different procedure for the Territorial Army?
Nope. Elbow your Chief Clerk, and they should sort it out.

My mate and I went through TACC on the same course, and ended up with new numbers that were two apart. He had his scroll in about a year, mine just never showed up. After nine years or so, I got onto our Chief Clerk, and it turned up a couple of months later.

Don't get me started on the two-year wait to get the TD sorted out, or the occasion where my bounty was 11 months late because the pay computer "couldn't cope with TA Gp.A troops at a TA Gp.B unit". Certificates of Efficiency went in for March, bounties turned up eight months late (including the CO and 2ic), yours truly was the exception that took another three months to fix. Still, two bounties hitting the bank in three months felt great.

It's why I laugh when anyone suggests that the Army is supported effectively by the MoD. In twenty-five years of civilian employment, I have never heard of an employee failing to get their first pay cheque at the end of the first month they were employed. Try achieving that in the TA.
 

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#17
There is section in Kentergen House that deals with commissioning scrolls. Mine took 4 years to arrive and when it did they got my name wrong - I 'phoned them direct and got a corrected one by post the next day. When Mrs BA went regular her scroll got the wrong name on it too. Same detail replacement in the post the next day. She was not required to hand back her TA scroll. We now have 4 (2 each) on the stairway - bogs are full of Hash photos.

If you want your scroll call the Glasgow and ask to be put through to section that deals with scrolls.
 
#20
angular said:
What about TA officers? I never received a certificate either. I note all the advice about writing to the MoD etc., but was/is there a different procedure for the Territorial Army?
I'm ACF (TA Gen List 'B') and mine turned up shortly after my two years as a 2Lt were up.

I've never heard of 'em not turning up in my mob?
 

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