Writing on the wall for Labour

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BBC News - Labour conference: Harman attacks Tories over vote plan

Harriet Harman is complaining that moves to reform electoral registration will cost Labour 10 million votes. The proposed system will see every voter registering individually rather than the head of the household declaring how many people in the house are entitled to vote.

The government says the new system would require each person to register themselves and to provide more details - such as a signature, date of birth and National Insurance number, which would then be checked with the Department for Work and Pensions.
Sounds perfectly fair to me.
 
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Excellent decision, so those households where the Male deems he is head of the household can withhold votes from other parties within it. Now I wonder who lives in a house like that? I would have thought the massive debt would have been more of a worry.
 

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BBC News - Labour conference: Harman attacks Tories over vote plan

Harriet Harman is complaining that moves to reform electoral registration will cost Labour 10 million votes. The proposed system will see every voter registering individually rather than the head of the household declaring how many people in the house are entitled to vote.



Sounds perfectly fair to me.
Sounds perfectly fair to anyone, it will be hard for Labour to fight against as I do not see a basis.....
 
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Sounds perfectly fair to anyone, it will be hard for Labour to fight against as I do not see a basis.....
But in a patriarchal society as with some immigrant families this could cause some upset.
 
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But in a patriarchal society as with some immigrant families this could cause some upset.
I think that points already been made ....
Excellent decision, so those households where the Male deems he is head of the household can withhold votes from other parties within it. Now I wonder who lives in a house like that? I would have thought the massive debt would have been more of a worry.
 
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But in a patriarchal society as with some immigrant families this could cause some upset.

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It will be the individual's responsibility to make sure that he/she/it is on the electoral register, and with any luck will severely impede the postal vote fraud as encouraged under the Labour Governments. This combined with the boundary commissions changes should hopefully put paid to future Labour governments without forming coalitions with the Limp Dems.
 
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Are we gauranteed that the information on a new electoral roll will not be sold commercially?
Excuse my sceptecism but the DVLA sells information, I wouldn't be happy with providing more information without a reasonable expectation that the data is protected.
 
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But in a patriarchal society as with some immigrant families this could cause some upset.
Well, the door's always open to them to **** off somewhere else that will have them.
 
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Are we gauranteed that the information on a new electoral roll will not be sold commercially?
Excuse my sceptecism but the DVLA sells information, I wouldn't be happy with providing more information without a reasonable expectation that the data is protected.
It has been available commercially for years - nothing new.
 
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Great News and to coin a phase well used by the fabian/ socialist - Fair and inclusive.

Will hopefully mean that less of these morons vote -

Old Holborn: Dear Labour Voters


She will add: "The Tories are hoping if they take away the right to vote from students, young people living in rented flats in our cities, people from ethnic minority communities... if fewer of them can vote it will help the Tories win."

No they're not, what it means is EVERYONE has to get off their arrse and register. When living in London I suspected that my electoral register form was being nicked by one of my neighbours ( for reasons unkown). When I finally got to see a "corrected" copy that had not been intercepted, I discovered that I had another four people of Asian extraction living in my flat.

Strange that I never met them.

I reckon a few Mc Khan will fall off the electoral role in Glasgow.

Bring it on!!
 
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Isn't amazing how shes missing the elephant in the room by suggesting its better to allow one person in household to set the number of votes with little proof compared to 1 person one vote and proving they have a right to vote in an election, then again labour always seem to have form for vote rigging and nothing ever seems to be done about it in my hometown a few years ago the pakistani councilers it emerged was using his son as an enforcer to get people to vote the way he wanted and collect peoples postal votes while at the same time the son owned a string of properties that he claimed had council tennants in and got the DSS money for while they were all cannabis factories untill he got caught by the fuzz and spilled his guts to them after the neighbours of his houses complained of the heat coming from the walls i think he got around 3 years but dads vote rigging was quitely brushed under the rug, this was while Brown was PM though.
 
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I reckon a few Mc Khan will fall off the electoral role in Glasgow.
No, I think she went missing from a holiday appartment in Portugal.
 
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Isn't amazing how shes missing the elephant in the room by suggesting its better to allow one person in household to set the number of votes with little proof compared to 1 person one vote and proving they have a right to vote in an election, then again labour always seem to have form for vote rigging and nothing ever seems to be done about it in my hometown a few years ago the pakistani councilers it emerged was using his son as an enforcer to get people to vote the way he wanted and collect peoples postal votes while at the same time the son owned a string of properties that he claimed had council tennants in and got the DSS money for while they were all cannabis factories untill he got caught by the fuzz and spilled his guts to them after the neighbours of his houses complained of the heat coming from the walls i think he got around 3 years but dads vote rigging was quitely brushed under the rug, this was while Brown was PM though.
She's quite well aware that Labour relied on galloping electoral fraud in many of its constituencies, and she would be 'remiss' in her duties to the Party to let any hint of honesty creep into democracy in the Labour heartlands.
Collective voting is always Labours aim. Their hard Left Trade Union sponsors hate 'one member -one vote'. They much prefer 'one shop steward -one vote'. As the Unions, so their political Party.

I think the 'efnic' thing is smoke and mirrors. Sub Continent voting practices have been seen in all three Parties. What's really causing them to shit themselves is the upcoming Boundary Commission report that will reduce the number of seats to 600. Especially because that will also capture the increased rural/suburban population (99% WASP) who traditionally vote Tory, but have been largely submerged in large urban Labour seats.
What will boundary review mean? | YouGov
Not to mention the near bankruptcy of the Labour Party itself, which relies on Union levy funds, many of them Public sector-Fewer Public sector jobs, less Union money for the Comrades.
Quarter 2 2011 - Electoral Commission
According to this, the Labour Party has debts of £9.8 million, against £2.6 million for the Tories, yet there are only about 166,000 paid up Party members. Basically, from a cash flow point of view, Labour needs the Unions.


So, fewer seats, more of them weighted towards the Tories-Gerrymandering elctoral rolls, crawling to the Unions and ballot box stuffing is basically Labour's preferred approach to getting re-elected.
 
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So, the Harperson is all upset about the evil Tory plot of Individual Voter Registration. I see.

"The government has announced it will introduce individual electoral registration to help curb voting fraud.

Justice minister Michael Wills said the switch from household registration would be a "radical and unprecedented move" for the
country. "

"We will legislate to allow local authority electoral registration officers to collect personal identifiers – date of birth, signature and
national insurance number – from electors alongside the existing process of household registration."

That would be in March 2009 when, if I recall, there was a LABOUR governemnt in power.

It was to happen from 2015. All that has happened is that the Electoral Commission has rolled the start date forward to 2014.
That was announced in September 2010.....

So HH, what you are complaining about at the Labour Party conference is that all those dud Labour votes will now
be harder to manufacture thanks to your own initiatives to curb electoral fraud.

So you and Ed really are quite thick really. Or maybe you just read the speech some spin toady wrote for you.
 

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