Worst atrocities in world history

#1
In The Guardian Steven Pinker: fighting talk from the prophet of peace has a table of atrocities.

Ranked No 1 on the naughty step is the An Lushan Rebellion, had to look that up, Tang Dynasty affair. That is Followed by the Mongols and the Arab slave trade. The famine prone Raj gets rank as 12th just pipped by Maoist China and the Brits get a dishonorable mention along with The Cousins for the Atlantic Slave trade and practically wiping out the Red Injuns. WWII gets in at 9th, WWI at 16th but we can blame the Germans for those.

I'm shocked there is no mention of the Paddicaust.

This a little questionable as the time spans of these events isn't really considered but China does seem to be most prone to building a pile of skulls.
 
#2
No surprises there, as the Chinese appear to value life so little.
No sign of Dale farm. Has anyone told the UN?
 
#5
My immediate thought was, not another go at the Labour Party? Certainly one of the worst attrocities in recent history.
 
#6
New Labour's reign of terror?
 
#8
If it's the same Steven Pinker he's got a new book out explaining how we're get less violent as a species, so I guess the bias will be against ancient history.


....seems it's all in the link.


I dunno that I agree, maybe we just have more to lose & less to gain than ever before?
 

seaweed

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#9
It's the Guardian of course but I think famines were probably always endemic in India and the question is whether we had the means to do much about them. I understand the consequences of farmers switching to a cash crop (jute) but doubt that famine was an INTENDED consequence.

Local efforts to ensure supply later include (for instance) the (by then independent) Govt of Ceylon ordering tea farmers to put 1/3 of their acreage under food crops but rice didn't do very well on tea slopes.
 

Mr_Fingerz

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#11
Suprised that there's no mention of the Imperial Japanese adventure holiday in China/Manchuria/Korea.
 

the_boy_syrup

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#13
#15
QAuote "Exile1" "Does Pol Pot feature?"
Nah he is way down the scale with only 1mil,,the year zero etc etc
Hmmm... but as a percentage of the then population it would put him at or near, the top "In 1975 when the Khmer Rouge took power, it was estimated at 7.3 million. Of this total population an estimated one million to two million reportedly died between 1975 and 1978! , Thats between 13% & 27% of the population!
He also conveniently misses out the massacre of up to 2 million Armenians in Turkey at the beginning of the 20th C!
His references to the Slave trade seems to miss this "Historians estimate that between 10 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900. It has been estimated up to 7 out 10 slaves died soon after. The Slave trade also continued in this area up to the end of the 20th C!"
 

seaweed

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#16
Judging by occasional reports in the press the Saudis seem still to be practising slavery, at least as regards domestic servants, right here in London. And pretty much getting away with it.
 

Fang_Farrier

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#17
can't be arsed to read the link, Does Stalin's treatment of the Ukraine in the 1930's come into it, or are all Stalin's just put under one?
 
#18
Judging by occasional reports in the press the Saudis seem still to be practising slavery, at least as regards domestic servants, right here in London. And pretty much getting away with it.
Ah yes, the Saudi's, guardians of the Holy Place of Islam, the Religion of peace & tolerance! They have a wonderful ethos of embracing all cultures & making all welcome, NOT! :- Saudi torture of women rampant, says Amnesty - Middle East, World - The Independent
Of course if the poor buggers try to defend themselves this happens :- BBC News - Saudi execution prompts Indonesia maid travel ban
 
#19
It's the Guardian of course but I think famines were probably always endemic in India and the question is whether we had the means to do much about them. I understand the consequences of farmers switching to a cash crop (jute) but doubt that famine was an INTENDED consequence.

Local efforts to ensure supply later include (for instance) the (by then independent) Govt of Ceylon ordering tea farmers to put 1/3 of their acreage under food crops but rice didn't do very well on tea slopes.
Which is a bit odd because it grows ok on the defoliated mountain slopes here (Laos, not Beru Jaho)
 
#20
Judging by occasional reports in the press the Saudis seem still to be practising slavery, at least as regards domestic servants, right here in London. And pretty much getting away with it.
After the old bloke left the green machine he worked in Chelsea. That is no news, they have been doing it for at least 25 years, and more...
 

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