World Cup Football - is it just acting?

#1
Having watched the England game, I will be the first to admit i am more partial to rugby and thus doen't see much football, but.....

Why do the players (England included) seem to spend most of the time grasping a "horrific" injury everytime someone goes even vaguely close to them?
And how come the referees all seem to be inconsistent with their decisions, what constituted a yellow card in one instance, was not remarked upon when (IMHO) the play was far more dangerous!

Am i missing something or is it just a bunch of (well paid) puffs?

Insight anyone?

OS
 
#3
got it in one I would say, some academy award performances today
 
#4
Ha! That makes me laugh. I watched the game yesterday and nearly gagged when i saw this paraguayan player fling himself to the ground at being tackled, and then, not knowing quite what part of him was supposed to have been injured, watched him rolling around on the floor grabbing the bottom of his poorly football boot. I mean, i know these boots are pretty expenisve, but do they feel pain? Even if they do they have a remarkable ability to recover because as soon as said chap realised that no one was taking the blindest bit of notice he hopped up and legged it after the ball again. It makes a mockery of game quite frankly, and god knows what they were thinking when they assigned a South American ref to a game with a South American team.
 
#5
remedialtherapy said:
and god knows what they were thinking when they assigned a South American ref to a game with a South American team.
And ...... duh!!! ....... wouldn't it be a tad tricky to ensure that the ref was from a different continent to either team?!
 
#6
Regarding my last post, I must confess to being totally out of my depth on this and would be grateful for some advice on the policy of refs from the same continent as either of the teams. My post was a knee-jerk reaction, based on the guess that most of the teams and refs were european. But the list of refs below (I apologise for layout) makes me wonder. Humble apologies.

The 23 referees for the 2006 FIFA World Cup Germany.
FAMILY NAME
FIRST NAME
COUNTRY.

ABD EL FATAH
Essam
Egypt

AMARILLA
Carlos
Paraguay

ARCHUNDIA
Benito
Mexico

BATRES
Carlos
Guatemala

BUSACCA
Massimo
Switzerland

CODIJA
Coffi
Benin

DE BLEECKERE
Frank
Belgium

DE SANTIS
Massimo
Italy

ELIZONDO
Horacio
Argentina

IVANOV
Valentin
Russia

KAMIKAWA
Toru
Japan

LARRIONDA
Jorge
Uruguay

MAIDIN
Shamsul
Singapore

MEJUTO GONZALEZ
Manuel
Spain

MERK
Markus
Germany

MICHEL
Lubos
Slovakia

POLL
Graham
England

POULAT
Eric
France

PRENDERGAST
Peter
Jamaica

RUIZ
Oscar
Colombia

SHIELD
Mark
Australia

SIMON
Carlos
Brazil

VASSARAS
Kyros
Greece
 
#7
My thoughts were why not an Eastern referee, Japanese perhaps? It just didn't make sense, and I'm by no means the only one who thinks this. 3 yellow cards to England players? Silly. Anyway, I hate fooltball, only watched it cos my boss wanted to and we all had to seeing as we were at work.
 
#9
i don't think they are overpaid really....i mean the money they make individually is tens of millions (beckham gerrad ect)....it wouldn't be fair paying them 5.50 an hour would it!
 
#11
A rugby fan so a quick query.

The world cup is all about finding out who the best team in the world is, right?

Why do we bother - I thought this was established 4 years ago!

(coat...)
 
#12
JstJake said:
i don't think they are overpaid really....i mean the money they make individually is tens of millions (beckham gerrad ect)....it wouldn't be fair paying them 5.50 an hour would it!
To be fair to them, they are paid what the clubs will give them. If someone turned round to me and said "Here you go Oneshot, please do this job which you obviously like and as compensation please take this £1m per month salery to make it easier for you. I hope you will do it!"

Hmmm, i know what i would do, obvioulsy "Oh no, thanks for the offer but Id prefer to do the job for a more socailly acceptable salery, how does 40k sound, still a bit on the high side, but then I am good!!"

No really i would!
 
#13
I'm an ex-rugby player turned football hooligan - you should try it - it's bloody fun. Being a turncoat probably arises from being an ex-pat: Any excuse to go bananas, drink, shout and yell ENGLAND is always welcome... sadly, I've been waiting for this competition for months... I've done the training, know all the names... and people don't say duuuhhh! at me any more when I spout about a game I've never played.

As for the injuries... it's part of the game... you're right of course, but if they don't yell, the game just carries on around them and their own side suffers. I think it strated in South America.

The pay is obscene - I wouldn't turn it down for a second.

The Refs (bunch of tossers(part of being a hooligan - or ruligan as we're called in DK)) have different standards on different continents and all referee a different style of football at home. What gets to me is when they get it blatantly wrong and it costs a team.
 
#14
your all right in saying the pay is huge...but to be honest if the players didn't get the money, fat men in suits would have it

but IMO...they could just put the prices on the gate down....make it more affordable....


but as long as people pay 40 quid to watch a game...they will charge it
 
#15
The pay is far too much, it is a p1ss take. Especially when you realise that that salery is being paid for by the takings of the club shop, turn stiles and pay per view... ie us. There should be some caps on the salery.

As for being paid to represent England. No. They should do it for the pride. When that scroat (ferdinand?) was being investigated for drugs and they all decided to go on strike I know what I would have done. Right you can all do one, and we'll select a team that will play with pride.

As for dives, etc. The ref should be allowed to send a player off to the med bay for say 10 mins recuperation, if he thinks that the "injury" sustained warrents it. Can't allow "horrifically" injured players to carry on as if nothing as happened can we?

Top and bottom of it, football (esp at this level) sucks. There is no integrity in the players, who would kill their own gran to win (see maradona repeatedly claiming it wasn't a hand ball until after the match), they dive all the time and the players are all arrses (see rooney, fowls, gets a yellow promptly claps like some petulant child cue red card).

Many people I know believe the ladies matches are far more entertaining, for the skill aswell.
 
#17
chocolate_frog said:
The pay is far too much, it is a p1ss take. Especially when you realise that that salery is being paid for by the takings of the club shop, turn stiles and pay per view... ie us. There should be some caps on the salery.

As for being paid to represent England. No. They should do it for the pride. When that scroat (ferdinand?) was being investigated for drugs and they all decided to go on strike I know what I would have done. Right you can all do one, and we'll select a team that will play with pride.

As for dives, etc. The ref should be allowed to send a player off to the med bay for say 10 mins recuperation, if he thinks that the "injury" sustained warrents it. Can't allow "horrifically" injured players to carry on as if nothing as happened can we?

Top and bottom of it, football (esp at this level) sucks. There is no integrity in the players, who would kill their own gran to win (see maradona repeatedly claiming it wasn't a hand ball until after the match), they dive all the time and the players are all arrses (see rooney, fowls, gets a yellow promptly claps like some petulant child cue red card).

Many people I know believe the ladies matches are far more entertaining, for the skill aswell.
The ref should be able to charge those players with malingering!
 
#18
chocolate_frog said:
The pay is far too much, it is a p1ss take. Especially when you realise that that salery is being paid for by the takings of the club shop, turn stiles and pay per view... ie us. There should be some caps on the salery.

As for being paid to represent England. No. They should do it for the pride.
But at the end of the day, it is their job, would you goto Iraq for pride over pay?

There will be no caps on salery as long as people turn up, tune in or whatever. The best way to bring pices down wouldbe not to watch it. If noone turned up then they wouldn't be able to sustain the business and pay the players!
 
#19
If I was getting paid millions to sit around the tank park all day, I would definitly go to Iraq for pride. Alas I am not.
 

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