Work forever

#1
Harriet Harperson has claimed that the age that we retire at needs a shake up.
She claims that people should work after they reach 65,so that they don`t feel past it.
I think that as people are living longer that this is probably not a bad idea.
Any thoughts?
 
#2
I think it's a good idea in general but I'm afraid I'm far too cynical about the intentions of the current government to accept this as anything other than a plan to try to blag a closure of the massive pension gap in the UK.
 
#3
mortars2cg said:
Harriet Harperson has claimed that the age that we retire at needs a shake up.
She claims that people should work after they reach 65,so that they don`t feel past it.
I think that as people are living longer that this is probably not a bad idea.
Any thoughts?
I like the idea of having the option to retire at 60 but allowed to work as long as you are able. Your own choice.
 
#4
I think this may be a generation thing, my old man is nearly 80 and still does a 5 day week as a gardener, my granddad worked until he was in his 80's as well although this is/was more a survival thing. I also can't see me stopping at 65 I think mainly because I have worked since leaving school and would be lost without it.

However you have a lot of people who have never worked or have only worked for periods of their life and will try to take retirement at the earliest opportunity.

As long as there is not a bar on it and you still have all your faculties then why not, but it should be up to the individual and not mandatory.
 
#6
Will Harperson work till she drops dead or will she be retiring on her gold plated and diamond tipped MP's pension?
 
#8
She is loveley. Never done a days work in her life but is qualified to talk about it. For a start she should learn that it is very difficult to get any job after you are 50. The public sector being the worst offender.
 
#9
mortars2cg said:
Harriet Harperson has claimed that the age that we retire at needs a shake up.
She claims that people should work after they reach 65,so that they don`t feel past it.
I think that as people are living longer that this is probably not a bad idea.
Any thoughts?
If a senior citzen wishes to work part time when they reach 65 ,And they feel that what they want to do Thats fair enough, But if our government give senior citzens more pension they would not have to work extra hours and would be able to enjoy their retirement
 
#10
also perhaps if private pensions where not taxed when you pay into them and again when you recieve them, more people would start paying into a private penisions, and start to take early retirement, clearing the job market for the younger (and willing to work) people.
 
#11
Worked from 16 to 65 , 22 years Army ,never been unemployed or claimed benefit , all planned to retire at 65 and spend most of the rest of our lives travelling and on holiday , so far managing to just what we planned . We've earnt it and are making the most of it.
 
#12
Frankly I'm all in favour of people working past 65. (Never expected to agree with Harperson; I feel unclean.)

The state pension system as it currently stands is unaffordable. With an ageing population and declining birthrate we cannot afford to have people retire at 65 and then potentially live a further 10-30 years with a fixed income provided from taxation paid by those in employment.

People are living longer, and there is no reason for them to become economically inactive once they reach a certain age. If you can afford to live of a minimal state pension then great, enjoy retirement. If you have a decent private pension and can afford to live off it then great. If you have a less good pension, and need to supplement your income by doing some work, on your own terms, then why not.

The state pension is like other forms of welfare. It should be a safety net for those with no other way of providing for themselves. There is no reason for people to only have a state pension, and we should stop pretending having a state pension and a state pension alone is a responsible financial plan for later life.

Hmm, not sure Harperson will like that. I feel better again.
 
#15
Retirement age is already 68 for men 34 and under :(

I can see the retirement age steadily rising as people keep living longer. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the retirement age hits 75 before I retire. Assuming they don't bin pensions in the meantime.
 
#16
I retired a number of years ago and I am pleased I am out of it now .
I receive a number of Pensions including some Private Pensions .
I have watched with astonishment at what has happened to Pension Aspirations in the past 10 years .
It is my belief that lots of people in their 30’s and 40’s will have no choice but to work well into their 70’s . Money Purchase scheme returns are collapsing in terms of the Pension at the end and Final Salary Pension schemes will become as rare as hen’s teeth shortly .
Personally I blame it on Brown and his raid on the Pension schemes in 1997 , that was the beginning and since then the whole lot has started to collapse like a pack of cards .
I think the only people who have made money out of Private Pension Schemes are the Pension Companies themselves . .
 

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#17
I'll work until I drop. And I'll make money. It is hard trying to imagine doing anything else. I enjoy it. Harriet Harperson can take a flying fuck at a rolling donut for me.

One does so hate to be patronised by great fat ugly bloaters, you know?
 
#18
My pension aspiratons are:

1.Win the euromillions
2.Win the Lotto
3.Join a tontine with Darling, Brown, Prescott and Harperson...
 
#19
Cuddles said:
My pension aspiratons are:

1.Win the euromillions
2.Win the Lotto
3.Join a tontine with Darling, Brown, Prescott and Harperson...
Reckon you are on a winner with number 3 !
 
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#20
jarrod248 said:
mnairb said:
And where are these jobs going to come from - we currently have 3 million unemployed and very little prospect of that changing.
You could probably at least double that unemployment figure but they are on incapacity benefit.
Realistic estimates of Britain's unemployment rate, using international definitions of 'unemployed', lie between 5 and 7 million. That's mass unemployment in anybody's book.

We spend almost as much on welfare as we spend on the NHS, education and defence combined.

The government makes 22 million benefit payments per month, including pensions.

Last time the National Audit Office had a look, they found that one third of UK households obtained 'most or all' of their household income from benefits.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why the government is printing money to pay its bills and why our economy is collapsing faster than any other in the developed world.

Regarding Harriet, she is the girl of my dreams. She must become Labour leader after Gordon grasps the mess Webley. It's her destiny. She has the potential to become a greater Tory asset than Gordon ever was.

Give her six months as Leader of the Opposition and she'll make Michael Foot look like a well balanced moderate. I hear her latest wheeze is to prosecute the Catholic Church 'cos they don't allow wimmin to be priests.

In addition, it's a matter of time before she kills somebody in her motor. I look forward to her fleeing and claiming asylum in Cuba.
 

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