wont this get scrapped by the EU under ooman rights?

Grumblegrunt

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#2
It would be nice to think that it could happen but there will be the cries of hooman rites, and probably claims for compensation for the stress of being told they should speak the language of the country they're sponging from
 
#3
I do not see how learning the lingo as an immigrant is such a challenge!
In the last 14 years here in the US, I have learned lots of Spanish.

To the point, that I can now order, one, two, or even three beers in Spanish.
(Can't spell it, so I will not try here Par Favor)
 
#5
This is the thing I don't understand about the logic of the EU and International Asylum Treaties.

International Asylum Treaties should only allow people to flee to the nearest safe haven. But they don't. They allow asylum seekers the discretion to choose the haven which will treat them most generously - which naturally means they all come here.

Same goes for the EU really.
 
#6
Does that mean they will be pulping the benefit forms available in 14 different languages and stop hiring in interpreters at £40/hr?
 
#7
This is the thing I don't understand about the logic of the EU and International Asylum Treaties.

International Asylum Treaties should only allow people to flee to the nearest safe haven. But they don't. They allow asylum seekers the discretion to choose the haven which will treat them most generously - which naturally means they all come here.

Same goes for the EU really.

When you think about it, smart dills on the behalf of the Frogs and Germans, move all your immigrants on to some one else's tab.
 
#8
Uslesless electioneering rhetoric

When it falls at the first post by some bureacratic ECHR bollocks, CMD will say "Look, at least we tried!" knowing full well it would have gone nowhere anyway
 
#9
When you think about it, smart dills on the behalf of the Frogs and Germans, move all your immigrants on to some one else's tab.
I know. Yet another example of the Brits winning the war and losing the peace.
 
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Mr_Fingerz

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In answer to the OPs question: No.

None of the convention rights:

Right to Life
Prohibition of Torture
Prohibition of Slavery and Forced Labour
Right to Liberty and Security
Right to a Fair Trial
No Punishment Without Law
Right To Respect for Private & Family Life
Freedom of Thought Conscience and Religion
Freedom of Expression
Freedom of Assembly and Association
Right To Marry
Prohibition of Discrimination
Restrictions On The Politocal Activities of Aliens
Prohibition of Abuse of Rights

Or the Protocol Rights

have been violated.
 
#13
I don't see how it does infringe on human rights... it allows for greater access to the UK and encourages education.

It certainly isn't a shackle.

English is the spoken language of Britain. You may speak any other language you like.
 
#14
There could be an argument that it goes against the Prohibition of Discrimination in that you are discriminating against someone due to them not being able to speak English.

Backlash that with the equality argument in not treating asylum seekers like British nationals.

There is review on the Human Rights Act at the moment, the new Rights Bill is slowly going through the Parliamentary system.

Hopefully it will be the 'British Bill of Rights' that Cameron spoke about before becoming PM.
Although I can't find a copy if the text of it online anywhere....
 
#15
In answer to the OPs question: No.

None of the convention rights:

Right to Life
Prohibition of Torture
Prohibition of Slavery and Forced Labour
Right to Liberty and Security
Right to a Fair Trial
No Punishment Without Law
Right To Respect for Private & Family Life
Freedom of Thought Conscience and Religion
Freedom of Expression
Freedom of Assembly and Association
Right To Marry
Prohibition of Discrimination
Restrictions On The Politocal Activities of Aliens
Prohibition of Abuse of Rights

Or the Protocol Rights

have been violated.
I've highlighted the ones that 'could' be used.

Rights to private and family life, they could claim that if they speak a lingo already amongst their peers why learn English? Likewise some religions have languages (Islam and Jews for example).
They could just claim it to be discrimination forceing them to learn English when others are not forced to learn a language.

Lawyers are poor are they?

Best way, set it in stone you need a E (or what ever the lowest grad is now) in English, Maths and British History and Citizenship. Or no access to the 'work exchange', where the receipiant gives up 1 hour of their time for 1 hours min wage.

Cleaning graffiti, sorting recycling, sitting in a dark room.... 1 hour for Britain, not Jeremy Kyle.
 
#16
"Call me Dave", is turning out to be a complete tosser, much like the war criminal Blair. He is going to use the time he has left to feather his own nest and those of his cronies.

I stupidly thought that the Tory party would start to repair the damage the Labour scum had done, the UK is in the shit and podgy Dave can't and aren't able to stop us becoming a third world shithole.
 
#17
I think this rule can only be applied to Non-Eu citzens.

I know the Germans already have something similar in place if immigrants want to take up German citizenship.
 
#18
It could work. Currently an Asylum seeker waiting to get his/her leave to remain only gets £32.25 or similar a week to live on, it usually runs as 1/2 of the Job Seekers amount (Wonder why they work illegally). But they can't claim ESA or Income support for disabilities, because under Tories hardly anyone is disabled (fairly right on that one) and you can't claim Job Seekers unless you're looking for a job.

Never know, it might work!
 
#19
I do not see how learning the lingo as an immigrant is such a challenge!
In the last 14 years here in the US, I have learned lots of Spanish.

To the point, that I can now order, one, two, or even three beers in Spanish.
(Can't spell it, so I will not try here Par Favor)
I think its more to do with their accent, I wouldnt like to be seen speaking like Abu from the Simpsons.
 
#20
I would like to see you in flames
 

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