WOLF landrovers

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GLESGA-NED

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#5
I'm sure someone will prove me wrong, but most GS wolfs have been reroled as BOWMAN FFR's and units get the old 110's back as GS :roll: So I would think that any Wolf's earmarked for disposal would be few and far between what with the conversion and OP's.
 
#7
yea exactly but doubt that'll ever happen as our landrovers at the moment are going to DSG to be refit. Wolf looky-likies but still no balls under the bonnet.

Extra weight + Same old engine = Fail

Can i stress i HATE the current (sorry old to regulars) landrovers. Us TA are stuck with heaps of Crap

One army concept my ass!! leave us with the crap as usual.
 
#8
There is no point in the TA having any thing good. If we had Loads of Wolfs/DAf's they would sit in the TAC and rot like like the Bedfords and Rovers.

It would be great to have some kit that would get you were you are going and back again. The problem is that you have to jump through to many hops to use the wagons we have. Can't use the Bedfords for troops, can't use half the rovers because of seat belts/roll over protection. The one's you can use you need the drivers with the right paperwork and course's.

I have seen that there are many Reg units rolling around in the same old kit as use as well. These problems are not helped when new kit is bought only half the number needed procured.
 
#9
Heres another one off topic which sort of re-iterates saladdogers point.

Not sure if this is an army wide thing or just my regiment but i have been assisting in MT work the last couple months whilst looking for a full time job after giving up my last one. whilst in MT a signal came through that the harley motorbikes are getting scrapped ( this was after asking if i could get on a motorbike course at grantham or leccy)
On asking why the bikes were getting scrapped i got the reply of "theres hardly anyone qualified to use them anymore, and those that are qualified are either hardly ever in or dont want to use them"
Why not rather than scrap the bikes offer people their bike licence and harley training on a plate??

Theres always loads of kit that doesnt get utilised no matter where you go! our 2 king trailers for DROPS have only been used last week for the first time in months and that was for a trailer transfer course.
Im also a JCB op and have never had the opportunity to use this equipment on exercise.
Why is there so much kit that sits about not getting used and not utilised for FTX etc?
 
#10
tank6275 said:
Heres another one off topic which sort of re-iterates saladdogers point.

Not sure if this is an army wide thing or just my regiment but i have been assisting in MT work the last couple months whilst looking for a full time job after giving up my last one. whilst in MT a signal came through that the harley motorbikes are getting scrapped ( this was after asking if i could get on a motorbike course at grantham or leccy)
On asking why the bikes were getting scrapped i got the reply of "theres hardly anyone qualified to use them anymore, and those that are qualified are either hardly ever in or dont want to use them"
Why not rather than scrap the bikes offer people their bike licence and harley training on a plate??

Theres always loads of kit that doesnt get utilised no matter where you go! our 2 king trailers for DROPS have only been used last week for the first time in months and that was for a trailer transfer course.
Im also a JCB op and have never had the opportunity to use this equipment on exercise.
Why is there so much kit that sits about not getting used and not utilised for FTX etc?
I am ready to get my neck wound in on this, however, I think the point about motorcycles is that the whole DR thing is obsolete, certainly on any operations in the foreseeable future. Fancy being that man driving from Lash to Bastion on a bike 8O 8O

And much like the horse they are now the preserve of specialist/cermonial units

That is one hell of a training and maintenance bill (both in time and money) for equipment that only ever leaves the MT shed for the rally cross club
 
#11
slightly of topic I know,but do you need a bike licence to drive/ride the new yamaha quad bikes ?
 
#12
fatmini said:
slightly of topic I know,but do you need a bike licence to drive/ride the new yamaha quad bikes ?
Quads or for that matter 3 wheeled vehicles (with an unladen weight not exeeding 550kg) require a B1 licence
 
#14
saladdoger said:
I have seen that there are many Reg units rolling around in the same old kit as use as well.
bloody right, i've been cutting around in a helibedford from the dark ages as of late, scavanging mirrors off of the cast wagons. Never mind the tractor unit that doesn't have a trailer sitting outside the office.
 
#15
BeastAppreciationSociety. said:
...i've been cutting around in a helibedford from the dark ages as of late, scavanging mirrors off of the cast wagons.
Either you need to improve your driving skills or you need to have a word with yourself - Bedfords aren't supposed to look like a 1960's Lambretta. ;)
 
#16
CAARPS said:
tank6275 said:
Heres another one off topic which sort of re-iterates saladdogers point.

Not sure if this is an army wide thing or just my regiment but i have been assisting in MT work the last couple months whilst looking for a full time job after giving up my last one. whilst in MT a signal came through that the harley motorbikes are getting scrapped ( this was after asking if i could get on a motorbike course at grantham or leccy)
On asking why the bikes were getting scrapped i got the reply of "theres hardly anyone qualified to use them anymore, and those that are qualified are either hardly ever in or dont want to use them"
Why not rather than scrap the bikes offer people their bike licence and harley training on a plate??

Theres always loads of kit that doesnt get utilised no matter where you go! our 2 king trailers for DROPS have only been used last week for the first time in months and that was for a trailer transfer course.
Im also a JCB op and have never had the opportunity to use this equipment on exercise.
Why is there so much kit that sits about not getting used and not utilised for FTX etc?
I am ready to get my neck wound in on this, however, I think the point about motorcycles is that the whole DR thing is obsolete, certainly on any operations in the foreseeable future. Fancy being that man driving from Lash to Bastion on a bike 8O 8O

And much like the horse they are now the preserve of specialist/cermonial units

That is one hell of a training and maintenance bill (both in time and money) for equipment that only ever leaves the MT shed for the rally cross club
Correct - the decision was taken to get rid of the MCs as there was no longer a viable role/need for them; the only people who complained were those who spent their sports afternoons/weekends using army MCs for rallying etc. As mentioned above the monet required to continue to support motorcycles was too much in the current climate and will no doubt be used to support Quads instead - which do have an operational role.
 
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BeastAppreciationSociety. said:
saladdoger said:
I have seen that there are many Reg units rolling around in the same old kit as use as well.
bloody right, i've been cutting around in a helibedford from the dark ages as of late, scavanging mirrors off of the cast wagons. Never mind the tractor unit that doesn't have a trailer sitting outside the office.
Why pinch mirrors off cast vehicles when they are available through the system :?
 
#18
tank6275 said:
yea exactly but doubt that'll ever happen as our landrovers at the moment are going to DSG to be refit. Wolf looky-likies but still no balls under the bonnet.

Extra weight + Same old engine = Fail

Can i stress i HATE the current (sorry old to regulars) landrovers. Us TA are stuck with heaps of Crap

One army concept my ass!! leave us with the crap as usual.
As an ARAB who spends far to much of his time wandering around MT parks (both Regular and TA, all over the south east), I can categorically state you're chatting through your dung trumpet, mate. I've seen very, very old vehicles in units about to deploy, and I've seen brand spankers kit in TA drill halls.

The regulars aren't out to get you, tank6275, there just isn't any spare kit to go round at the mo. I'm sure that if we had enough Wolfs to give every regular deployable unit their holding entitlement, and every TA unit too, you'd be swimming in the bloody things and probably whinging about maintaining them. As it is, be grateful your Defenders are going for refurb in DSG. At least they'll have nice paint jobs. Admittedly, that's about all they'll have but hey, if it's raining lemons, make lemonade.
 
#19
roadster280 said:
tank6275 said:
Can i stress i HATE the current (sorry old to regulars) landrovers. Us TA are stuck with heaps of Crap
Those heaps of crap did me just fine as a Regular. Rather better than the S3 Land Rovers with the fuel tanks under the seat, the fcuking hideous FFR radio batteries and the "slow as fcuk" option ticked when ordered.

Quit whining.
Yeah - try having to lead a convoy where the CP wagons have had to shift into low range just to get up the hill on an autobahn.... LOL
 
#20
roadster280 said:
tank6275 said:
Can i stress i HATE the current (sorry old to regulars) landrovers. Us TA are stuck with heaps of Crap
Those heaps of crap did me just fine as a Regular. Rather better than the S3 Land Rovers with the fuel tanks under the seat, the fcuking hideous FFR radio batteries and the "slow as fcuk" option ticked when ordered.

Quit whining.
Seconded. A properly maintained 90 or 110 Defender , even with the old 2.5 NA engine is still decent 4x4 - thats why Withams can still ask £4k for them when they are finally cast. As for disposing of WOLF- the only ones I've seen in the disposal world have been RTA victims. - And the price of good Series 3 vehicles is actually climbing now, even the youngest are 25 year old Classics !

Shame that the Army did not go for a mid-life re-engine on the Defenders tho. The old 2.5 is OK off-road but I'd agree its a bit sluggish if you have a long motorway move ! Legally I believe that they could stick the same 300 TDi as Wolf in them - doubtless LR no longer make them. Even easier would be the slightly older 200 TDi- fits straight onto the LT77 gearbox.

Yep, a spotter - I'll get my coat....
 

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