Winning your countries highest valour award

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  1. I was reading an earlier post:Fcuk Clint Eastwood. 1st Sgt Kasal USMC was awarded the navy cross for his outstanding actions.If he was in our Royal Marine's what medal would our country have awarded him. I for one think this would have brought him the VC,and can't understand why his country did not award him the MOH.Are his actions any less than our own VC winner Pte Beharry. Is it harder for yanks to win their top award,or is it that there are so many acts of valour taking place that it requires a Hollywood style action to gain one. Also are British troops hindered in winning our countries top award in Iraq/Afgan as Joe Public see's it as reward in an unjust war.
  2. The Medal of Honor is only awarded in action involving actual conflict with an opposing armed force. Maybe the US Government do not class insurgents as an actual armed force so to speak?.

    Whilst the Navy cross is awarded against an enemy of the U.S (being insurgents) or while serving with friendly forces.
  3. if that was the case Msgt Randy Shugart and SSsgt Gary Gordon (might have spelt those names wrong)would not have recived the Medal of Honour for there actions in somalia the enemy there were insurgents/local malita not a formed army
    i think it is although the yanks dish out campaign and metorious service medals like they were sweets they are very very tight when it comes to galantry awards
  4. Comparisons, ironic ones perhaps, with Tpr Finney receiving the GC rather than the VC on the basis that his bravery was in the face of US A10 blue on blue.
  5. Here's the pic of the said man...

  6. What did he do exactly, is there a link or a citation?
  7. The Americans are notoriously tight with the Congressional Medal of Honour (Honor). I think that less than a thousand have been awarded since it was first instituted (The Civil War I think but don't quote me). When you consider the number of men that must have been under arms since then it is an extremely rare event.
  8. No doubt the American Silver Medal would be rather like our Military Cross Medal the second highest
  9. This is a very interesting site and well worth a look.
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  11. There was one awarded to a US Army Sgt on Telic 1 or what ever the yanks called it. But before that the last 2 I think were Gordon and Shughart in Somalia.

    I'm sure they have a presidential medal of honour or something similar for GC type bravery/gallantry.
  12. Didn't someone in the SBS get one at Mazar-i-Sharif in 2001?
  13. one interesting point that hasnt been asked is this .

    if you do win the MOH or equivilent while serving with US forces would you be allowed to wear it in British uniform ?

  14. MARINE CORPS BASE CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. (May 4, 2006) -- Sgt. Maj. Bradley A. Kasal feels he did what any good Marine would’ve done.

    That includes taking enemy rifle fire on Nov. 14, 2004, absorbing a grenade blast and refusing medical attention inside Fallujah’s “House of Hell” during Operation Al Fajr (New Dawn).

    For his extraordinary heroism and leadership in Fallujah, Iraq, as the Weapons Company first sergeant for 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Kasal was awarded the Navy Cross during a ceremony here Monday.

    “The word hero is tossed around pretty loosely these days,” said Maj. Gen. Michael R. Lehnert, Commanding General of Marine Corps Installations West, after awarding Kasal with the Naval service’s second-highest decoration, in front of an audience that included the 1st Marine Division’s past and present commanding generals, Lt. Gen. James N. Mattis and Maj. Gen. Richard F. Natonski, respectively.

    ”Some may call a basketball player a hero for scoring the winning goal or a celebrity for donating a small portion of their earnings to a good cause, but Kasal is a true American hero.”

    When then-1st Sgt. Kasal assisted one of his platoons with an over watch inside Fallujah that day, intense gunfire broke out in an Iraqi home to his immediate front.

    Seconds later, Marines were rapidly exiting the building, known as the “House of Hell.” “That house was a death trap,” said Maj. Gen. Lehnert.

    “It was set up for one purpose: to kill United States Marines.” Kasal could have easily stayed out of the house.”

    When he found out that there were Marines still pinned down inside the infamous house, nothing the insurgents could put on the table would stop him from rescuing his Marines.

    “Going in for them was the right thing to do,” said Kasal, 39, who hails from Afton, Iowa. “They’re Marines, and I’m a Marine. We look out for each other.”

    Upon entry of the house, Kasal found himself face-to-face with an insurgent who he neutralized at extreme close range. Shortly afterwards, AK-47 gunfire was coming from all directions, and Kasal was hit from behind.

    “While I was in that house, I made three life or death decisions,” Kasal said. “I never thought I would live through any of them, but I did what I did to help the other Marines.”

    The first decision Kasal made was to expose himself to enemy fire in order to pull another wounded Marine out of the line of fire. Kasal took more enemy fire doing this.

    While both Marines were under cover, they assessed their wounds. Both had multiple injuries, but there were only enough bandages for one of them to live.

    Kasal made his second decision to forfeit his medical supplies to the other Marine.

    “It made more sense to use all of the bandages on one of us then to split the supplies and have us both bleed to death,” Kasal said.

    The insurgents deployed a hand grenade to get the Marines out of cover, and it landed within a few feet of the two bleeding Marines.

    Kasal then decided to use his own severely wounded body to protect the Marine from shrapnel.

    By the time he was carried out of the house by Lance Cpl. Chris Marquez and Lance Cpl. Dan Shaffer as Lucian M. Reed, an Associated Press photographer snapped the iconic photo displayed at Marine Corps installations all over the globe, Kasal had lost approximately 60 percent of his blood from more than 40 shrapnel wounds and seven 7.62 mm AK-47 gunshots.
  15. Fcuk me now thats a helluva marine hats off to the man and hope he has a swift recovery