Windrush Scandal

Yes, because Unions threatened strike action if any were employed -

Andrew Hake, curator of the Bristol Industrial Mission, recalled that "The TGWU in the city had said that if one black man steps on the platform as a conductor, every wheel will stop".[2]
Now don’t shatter his illusions. The Union excuse was that every man who went to war would get their job back. In essence, there was no advertisement specifically for West Indians by Labour. Women were quite incensed that they had to quit work and go back to having and running families, quite stereotypical socialism. The reality was they had enough POWs for menial Labour up until 1948 to replace the losses of the war.
 

Londo

LE
Yes, because Unions threatened strike action if any were employed -

Andrew Hake, curator of the Bristol Industrial Mission, recalled that "The TGWU in the city had said that if one black man steps on the platform as a conductor, every wheel will stop".[2]
Yet I had a black kid in my class at school who always maintained his dad was a slave brought over to drive busses for the white man .
Mind you he had a chip on both shoulders .
 

Londo

LE
New statue in tribute to the Windrush Generation to be unveiled today at Waterloo station which is a strange place for a ship to dock.

In fairness the sculpture seems to capture the sort of moaning minnie's that seem to have arrived as part of that generation

She's got a right face on

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Huge look of entitlement on her face .
What's she waiting for . Apart from a train or boat ?
 

TractorStats

Old-Salt
I wanted to ask a question to anyone who has detailed knowledge of the Windrush scandal.

I remember reading a fair while ago that one of the 'explanations' for the reason why some people affected by this scandal had not apparently sought a legal right to remain or full British citizenship was that their parents deliberately left their own status vague so as not to lose rights (e.g. residency, right to own property) back in the Caribbean if they ever wanted to retire back to their original home country as many in fact eventually did. The net result was that their children who stayed in the UK are now adults but never gained formal rights to live in the UK.

I also have seen reports of people who were caught in this scandal had been regular travellers back and forth to the Caribbean throughout life and seem to accidentally become regarded as sort of 'regular tourist' status.

Apologies, I haven't used the right immigration terms above but is there any truth in any of that or is that something that may have been put about by Home Office to cover for their own ineptness?
 

Londo

LE
New statue in tribute to the Windrush Generation to be unveiled today at Waterloo station which is a strange place for a ship to dock.

In fairness the sculpture seems to capture the sort of moaning minnie's that seem to have arrived as part of that generation

She's got a right face on

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Is that a young Gary Lineker she's holding by the scruff ?
 
What the 'younger' commentators fail to mention was, there was massive uneployment throughout the West Indies and, most of those that came, were looking for employment, it wasn't forced on any of them.
Well you say that, but...

Our lass's dad came over from Dominica (not to be confused with the Dominican Republic, it's pronounced Dominica with an "eek" as her family told me) in the early 50s. He was surprised to see some of the local bad lads on the boat he came over on. They had apparently been given the choice of a prison or a one way trip to the UK.

When his brother, a policeman on the island, came over a couple of years later he confirmed that the colonial governors had a quota, which in some cases they fulfilled by emptying the local jails.
 

Londo

LE
When his brother, a policeman on the island, came over a couple of years later he confirmed that the colonial governors had a quota, which in some cases they fulfilled by emptying the local jails.
Same as many other countries I would think .
 

rampant

LE
Kit Reviewer
I wanted to ask a question to anyone who has detailed knowledge of the Windrush scandal.

I remember reading a fair while ago that one of the 'explanations' for the reason why some people affected by this scandal had not apparently sought a legal right to remain or full British citizenship was that their parents deliberately left their own status vague so as not to lose rights (e.g. residency, right to own property) back in the Caribbean if they ever wanted to retire back to their original home country as many in fact eventually did. The net result was that their children who stayed in the UK are now adults but never gained formal rights to live in the UK.

I also have seen reports of people who were caught in this scandal had been regular travellers back and forth to the Caribbean throughout life and seem to accidentally become regarded as sort of 'regular tourist' status.

Apologies, I haven't used the right immigration terms above but is there any truth in any of that or is that something that may have been put about by Home Office to cover for their own ineptness?

Start over from the beginning of the thread all explanations are. But short version

British Subjects from one of our sunnier islands are invited over en mass to fill the gaps in the labour market

Told they don't need to register, or do anything to prove they are British

Combination of Independence of said Islands, and regular changing of citizenship rules under successive UK Govts that ignored the circumstances of the past.

Windrush Passengers not told they were affected by rule changes, or were told, nah you're good

Home Office throws out all the evidence they had of Windrush Passengers' right to stay (boarding passes etc etc)

Roll on 60 or 70 odd years - an incompetant Home Office utterly bereft of Institutional knowledge (they had chucked it all in a skip after all and all the buggers that could pipe up were long retired, dead or let go) starts chucking out British Citizens that have, in some cases, lived longer than those ordering them turfed have been alive.
 
British Subjects from one of our sunnier islands are invited over en mass to fill the gaps in the labour market


Invited not so much, and rather a myth... Propagated ironically by the Labour Party and the left. I have no doubt that the Labour Government idea to destroy the landing cards was part incompetence part malicious throwing spanners into the works.

After the MP for Southwark North died in 1939, Isaacs was finally able to regain the seat. When Labour formed the government after the 1945 election, he was appointed Minister of Labour and National Service. Part of his responsibility was to oversee the successful demobilisation of the wartime British Armed Forces. Following the arrival at London of the troopship Windrush in 1948, carrying about 500 Jamaican men said to be seeking work, Isaacs stated to Members of Parliament:

"I don't know who sent these men....it is bound to result in difficulties....we can give no assurances that they can be found suitable work. I hope no encouragement will be given to others to follow them."[1]

 
Just watched it on the News. A lovely monument, to go alongside similar ones for the Asian and Chinese Communities in the UK! :roll:
 
I have a friend whom doesn't have a passport and never has.

Of origin from a family St. Vincent of the Carribean.

He's never been able to find an easy process for applying for citizenship even though he was born and raised here and holds a full UK license.
Has your friend got his birth certificate? I would have thought that doc would be some help in his quest.
 

colinmc400

War Hero
I wonder if anything has been learnt from this, in regard to how “Boat people” from Vietnam and latterly those from Honkers have been dealt with? Surely those in Westminster wouldn’t let it happen again - rolls on the floor laughing my ass off.
 
Yet I had a black kid in my class at school who always maintained his dad was a slave brought over to drive busses for the white man .
Mind you he had a chip on both shoulders .
Sadiq Khan walt.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Start over from the beginning of the thread all explanations are. But short version

British Subjects from one of our sunnier islands are invited over en mass to fill the gaps in the labour market

Told they don't need to register, or do anything to prove they are British

Combination of Independence of said Islands, and regular changing of citizenship rules under successive UK Govts that ignored the circumstances of the past.

Windrush Passengers not told they were affected by rule changes, or were told, nah you're good

Home Office throws out all the evidence they had of Windrush Passengers' right to stay (boarding passes etc etc)

Roll on 60 or 70 odd years - an incompetant Home Office utterly bereft of Institutional knowledge (they had chucked it all in a skip after all and all the buggers that could pipe up were long retired, dead or let go) starts chucking out British Citizens that have, in some cases, lived longer than those ordering them turfed have been alive.
You miss something. Many of those told to leave by the Evil Tories were actually given their marching orders under a Labour administration but process takes time.

Doesn’t stop the latter now blaming the former, though.
 
You miss something. Many of those told to leave by the Evil Tories were actually given their marching orders under a Labour administration but process takes time.

Doesn’t stop the latter now blaming the former, though.
File that valid point under Grenfell, school milk cessation, empty treasury coffer’s etc.
 
Is that a young Gary Lineker she's holding by the scruff ?
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You absolute twat.

I am sat in a tent quietly perusing Arrse and I have now just woken up the entire occupants of Cotegill Caravan Park and Campsite with the sound of my snot and laughter combined.

More than Excellent.
 

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