Wind Farms

#2
Most of the time the wind turbines I can see as I write are not all turning. Not maintenance based either.

Like looking at them though. I think they add to the view.
 
#3
I'm reading Tim Flannery at the minute

We/the future/our children are all ******* doomed if these pricks protect the monied land owning types property from practical alternate energy sources

Come the ******* climatic apocalypse their priviledged lives/property won't have any protection from the mad-max type rampaging screaming hoards surviving on hard hearts and violence

Bring it on I say
 
#4
The big energy producers used to put proposals forward for wind farms, get awarded carbon credits for thinking 'green'. Flog them to the US to off-set the US carbon footprint. Nothing gets built, EON or whoever pocket some cash, US gets less of a ticking off for polluting the environment.

I think without subsidies they probably aren't financially viable at the moment, this is just a bit of lip service to look like we are trying to meet the Kyoto agreement.
 
#5
I heard a man ring into a radio programme today who claimed to work in the wind thing industry. He said that all the turbines have to have a diesel engine fitted to keep the blades turning when there was no wind as the weight of the blades would damage the bearings if they remained at rest. The ones in the sea were regularly visited by a maintenance crew. If that is true then we have really be sold a lie.
 
#6
If you've got a couple of quid to invest in the next few years, look at the consortiums that build nuclear.

Sooner or later we're going to "panic buy" and they'll charge what they like.
 
#9
this is just a bit of lip service to look like we are trying to meet the Kyoto agreement.
I didn't think we signed the Kyoto agreement along with the biggest polluters, US and Australia
 
#11
Winfpd farms are a huge con.
The only winners are the land owners who make a fortune in rents for doing feck all.
 
#12
I heard a man ring into a radio programme today who claimed to work in the wind thing industry. He said that all the turbines have to have a diesel engine fitted to keep the blades turning when there was no wind as the weight of the blades would damage the bearings if they remained at rest. The ones in the sea were regularly visited by a maintenance crew. If that is true then we have really be sold a lie.
The turning of heavy loads as the man described is called 'barring gear'. Turbine/Generators use the system. High pressure oil first to lift the shaft off the bearing walls, then the barring motor starts.
 
#13
Hitachi's £700m Horizon nuclear deal to create up to 12,000 British jobs - Telegraph

I think this is is what is going to keep the lights on. Possibly with Tidal and Hydro Electric in addition. Not making the UK Landscape look like a Hilly Holland.
if they can safely run nuclear in a submarine they should be able to sort out safe nuclear on a bigger scale, unfortunately its also the Boogy man to leftist greeners, they need to take nuclear on the chin really as alternative energy hippy stylee doesn't cut the mustard yet and the absolute giants of the energy industry aren't gonna lie down and take any pain for the environmental lobby any time soon (BP apparently are trying...)
 
#14
Nuclear is the only real option for the UK.

Look at the Frogs, 50 odd nuclear plants, cheap electric and so much spare, they flog it to us and their other neighbours for a good markup.
 
#15
Winfpd farms are a huge con.
The only winners are the land owners who make a fortune in rents for doing feck all.
And even then its usually because of a twisted arm. At the moment they are trying to build some on land near and on my dads farm, most of the locals are hostile towards them and are campaigning against the plans, but they keep coming back with more money and offers to fund "community projects". The estate who is the biggest landowner in the area are all for them, presumably for the money and green credentials, so they are "encouraging" tenants on their land not to oppose them.
 
#16
The turning of heavy loads as the man described is called 'barring gear'. Turbine/Generators use the system. High pressure oil first to lift the shaft off the bearing walls, then the barring motor starts.
Thanks. So they do have some sort of motor for when the wind doesn't blow. I suspect that someone is making alot of money out of these pointless things.
 
#17
It is astonishing that little to no development of tidal energy has been investigated in the UK. Tide speeds are calculable and occur at least twice a day for up to six hours. Some areas (Solent west, North Channel, Pentland Firth to say nothing of Sound ogf Scarba/Corrievrechan) are quite high speeds (for tides). Anchored to the seabed, and with connections to the foreshore the Crown Estate would make out well, and no visual impact. With planned siting and clear nav beacons quite safe for shipping and no huge impact on yachties.

Perhaps the idea of windfarms IS to be in your face.
 
#18
Thanks. So they do have some sort of motor for when the wind doesn't blow. I suspect that someone is making alot of money out of these pointless things.
The entiire installed wind farm capacity in the UK is about equivalent to a handful of nuclear power plants at about ten times the cost. 50% of the cost of wind energy is subsidies paid to the generators. If you install 1mw of wind turbines, you still need 1mw if of back up conventional generation. Wind turbines have a design life of 20 years vs 40 or more for a nuclear plant.

Its the economics of the madhouse
 
#19
Interesting that Ed Davey is alleged to have slapped down the Minister who has dared to challenge the waste on wind-farms. Obviously with his BA in Philosophy, politics and economics he feels he has a good grasp of the science despite being second choice LibDem for the job!
 
#20
Interesting that Ed Davey is alleged to have slapped down the Minister who has dared to challenge the waste on wind-farms. Obviously with his BA in Philosophy, politics and economics he feels he has a good grasp of the science despite being second choice LibDem for the job!
Davey is just ensuring a hugely lucrative post Parliamentary Directorship awaits.
 

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