William Scurry

RP578

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#1
Just been reading about William Scurry and his self-firing rifle. One thing strikes me as a bit odd though; he is titled William Scurry MM, DCM and his medals are kounted in that order too (see below). Surely the DCM should precede the MM. Any anoraks out there able to shed light?

 
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RP578 said:
Just been reading about William Scurry and his self-firing rifle. One thing strikes me as a bit odd though; he is titled William Scurry MM, DCM and his medals are kounted in that order too (see below). Surely the DCM should precede the MM. Any anoraks out there able to shed light?

Wasn't it an MC? That would precede the DCM I believe.
 
#3
From left to right: MC, DCM, 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal, War Medal (WWII), Australian Service Medal.
 

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#4
FourZeroCharlie said:
From left to right: MC, DCM, 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal, War Medal (WWII), Australian Service Medal.
Doh! It is of course an MC. Still, wasn't the DCM a Level 2 award, second only to the VC/GC and thus 'outranked' the MC? Or was this a case of Officers' awards preceding those for the Ranks?
 
#6
yeah MC leavel 3 and DCM level 2 awards however the order of precidence has crossess before medals if a DCM holder was awarded a CGC it would go CGC DCM not the in the order of award
 
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RP578 said:
FourZeroCharlie said:
From left to right: MC, DCM, 1914-15 Star, British War Medal, Victory Medal, War Medal (WWII), Australian Service Medal.
Doh! It is of course an MC. Still, wasn't the DCM a Level 2 award, second only to the VC/GC and thus 'outranked' the MC? Or was this a case of Officers' awards preceding those for the Ranks?
That is a damned good group, awarded to an obviously brave and effective soldier.

The DCM was awarded to ORs, up to and including WO. It was not awarded to officers.

The MC was an officer award, usually up to Major. However it could, exceptionally, be awarded to senior WOs. Not knowing this chap's history, he could have earned both and not been commissioned.

And, yes, DCM was an almost-VC. John Major did for it in 1994, damn his eyes.
 

_Chimurenga_

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#8
By the way, is that a Mention in Despatches award on his Victory Medal ?
 

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BoundApprentice said:
yeah MC leavel 3 and DCM level 2 awards however the order of precidence has crossess before medals if a DCM holder was awarded a CGC it would go CGC DCM not the in the order of award
Ahhh! That'll be it then.

Incidentally he was awarded both the DCM and MiD for inventing the self firing rifle whilst in Gallipoli. He was subsequantly Commissioned too, or to be more precise, re-Commissioned, as he'd held a Commission in the Citizens Force before the War which he'd resigned so that he could join the AIF as a private. He won the MC as a Capt in France for leading a Mortar unit.
 

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