Will this government honour the triple lock as promesed ?

will goverment honour the triple lock pension

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 20.9%
  • no course not lying gits .

    Votes: 35 81.4%

  • Total voters
    43
Unfortunatley the increase in population are not the types that will be making a contrubution to tax take

Archie

Well that’s plain nonsense.

Of course some immigrants will end up working in jobs that are off the radar like some people also do who have lived here all their lives.

The vast majority though will be looking for proper employment and will pay tax and NI contributions though.
 
Well that’s plain nonsense.

Of course some immigrants will end up working in jobs that are off the radar like some people also do who have lived here all their lives.

The vast majority though will be looking for proper employment and will pay tax and NI contributions though.

I wouldn`t want to rely on that - a lot will have extended families who will made no contribution what so ever, plus we are reliant on an every increasing economy (GDP) to create sufficient well paid jobs

Archie
 
So overall, the population has increased which means more people, not less, will be paying in NI contributions.
Migrants and gimmegrants paying NI? Can I move to your planet please :)
 
Migrants and gimmegrants paying NI? Can I move to your planet please :)

We all know it’s a complex issue but ultimately, if you get a job, in the vast number of instances, you’ll end up paying tax and NI on your earnings.

There will always be tax dodgers etc but they are largely confined to Boris’s rich mates.

Not all of them but most of them! :)
 
I don't understand this. How can you spend so much money on it? What did the money buy?
I thought that the £37bn figure was how much had been earmarked as a budget for the project - from start until the end of the second year of operation.

Still a hell of a lot, mind.
 
We all know it’s a complex issue but ultimately, if you get a job, in the vast number of instances, you’ll end up paying tax and NI on your earnings.

There will always be tax dodgers etc but they are largely confined to Boris’s rich mates.

Not all of them but most of them! :)
Well that's just plain nonsense.

There are vast numbers of private investors and small business owners dodging tax on the "Oh no, I didn't know, I'm only a small investor or business owner and didn't understand the rules" principle.

These people massively outnumber the occasional big fish you mention, almost none of whom know Boris. Immigrants are disproportionately guilty of such shenanigans as they have...err...how can I put this...a culturally different attitude on tax and laws.
 
Well that's just plain nonsense.

There are vast numbers of private investors and small business owners dodging tax on the "Oh no, I didn't know, I'm only a small investor or business owner and didn't understand the rules" principle.

These people massively outnumber the occasional big fish you mention, almost none of whom know Boris. Immigrants are disproportionately guilty of such shenanigans as they have...err...how can I put this...a culturally different attitude on tax and laws.

I did put a smiley face on my post. That was however plainly lost on you.

Why do so many posters on here bring alleged differences in culture into matters like personal taxation and link the two things when discussing who pays tax and NI contributions and who doesn’t pay?

Tax evaders come in all shapes and sizes and from all cultures including all those that exist in the UK.

I’m not aware of any particular culture where anybody gets away with it more than anybody else.

Perhaps you know something that I’m not aware of?
 

Fat POM

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Regardless of the Income tax and NI contributions factor, anyone spending money in the UK is paying secondary taxes. Fuel, cigarettes, booze usw.
 

sirbhp

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Well that’s plain nonsense.

Of course some immigrants will end up working in jobs that are off the radar like some people also do who have lived here all their lives.

The vast majority though will be looking for proper employment and will pay tax and NI contributions though.
those working off the radar also tend to spread their money around , they will also pay 20% VAT on stuff which I believe is daylight robbery.
 
I did put a smiley face on my post. That was however plainly lost on you.

Why do so many posters on here bring alleged differences in culture into matters like personal taxation and link the two things when discussing who pays tax and NI contributions and who doesn’t pay?

Tax evaders come in all shapes and sizes and from all cultures including all those that exist in the UK.

I’m not aware of any particular culture where anybody gets away with it more than anybody else.

Perhaps you know something that I’m not aware of?
You really do walk into these things. As you are someone who is interested in politics, I am slightly concerned that you base your principles on untruths and with a lack of adequate background knowledge. In short, you believe any old tosh and then preach it as the truth, without seeking corroborating data or evidence.

Take a look at Patrick Cannon for the scale of the problem, then the ONS crime data pages, which outline ethnicity by crime and sentencing. I'm not going to spell it out for you. Go and read these sources: They will help you get a grasp of the subjects on which you pontificate but seemingly lack information. It may inform your political journey and prevent you spouting quite so much nonsense.
 
I cottoned onto the way that they play the game at a relatively early age.
Married at 19 to the daughter of a multi millionaire. I had two kids and a rented flat.
She was shagging many poeple unbeknown to me at the time.
I got divorced on legal aid.

A few months later my pay packet paid a total of around £50.00 for a months wages. Normally about 2 Grand.
What they did was, get her old man to buy a house and she would claim the benefits to pay off the mortgage, and muggins here would pay.

My solution, be it stupid or wise has yet to yet to be seen if it will work out in my favour.. I gave up work and signed on.

My thinking is that at the end of the day when you retire, any government will not be seen to let you be homeless or starve I could be very wrong.

As such i have quitely been trying to squirrel away some precious stuff just in case.
 
We all know it’s a complex issue but ultimately, if you get a job, in the vast number of instances, you’ll end up paying tax and NI on your earnings.

There is a reason that millions receive '' In work benefits ''
 
Well they could have brought men down to 60 or they could have both met roughly half way at say, 63 but that wouldn’t have achieved the aim of making everybody work more and costing less of their own money that they had paid into the pot for their retirement.

My wife for example worked her whole life under the premise that she would retire at 60 years of age only to almost get there and be told that she now has to work until she’s 67!

Until that little surprise was pulled out of the bag, she would have retired the month before me if I had retired at 65 years of age.

We worked our whole lives thinking we would more or less retire together and then enjoy our retirement together only to find our retirement plans crushed by a bunch of old Etonians and suchlike who only worry about where their next home decorating sponsor is coming from!

She’s thoroughly pissed off about it. I am as well and I daresay, there are probably hundreds of thousands of people in the same or a very similar situation.

Nothing squeals quite like a socialist denied access to other people's money.
 
Nothing squeals quite like a socialist denied access to other people's money.

You don’t get it do you numbnuts.

It’s not other people’s money. It’s money that people have paid in all their working lives.

Pay attention!
 
There is a reason that millions receive '' In work benefits ''

Yes. It’s a subsidy that allows firms to pay low wages and the rest of us supply the cash to the government who encourage those firms to carry on employing people and keeping them just above the poverty line.
 
You don’t get it do you numbnuts.

It’s not other people’s money. It’s money that people have paid in all their working lives.

Pay attention!
As has been explained to you before you're not paying into a pot or a fund. It's another tax, just like car tax isn't used for roads.
 
Yes. It’s a subsidy that allows firms to pay low wages and the rest of us supply the cash to the government who encourage those firms to carry on employing people and keeping them just above the poverty line.

Therefore, there are millions, in work, who are not paying in to the system.
 
You really do walk into these things. As you are someone who is interested in politics, I am slightly concerned that you base your principles on untruths and with a lack of adequate background knowledge. In short, you believe any old tosh and then preach it as the truth, without seeking corroborating data or evidence.

Take a look at Patrick Cannon for the scale of the problem, then the ONS crime data pages, which outline ethnicity by crime and sentencing. I'm not going to spell it out for you. Go and read these sources: They will help you get a grasp of the subjects on which you pontificate but seemingly lack information. It may inform your political journey and prevent you spouting quite so much nonsense.

What a load of tosh.

You’ve now moved on from immigrants to including all ethnic minorities as the source of the UK’s problems.

We can all look at the numbers. The problem is that people like you don’t look at the underlying reasons for these figures and you advocate doing nothing about the the problems that cause these figures to be so large.

Keep people in their place and you can look down on them and congratulate yourself that you’re not like them eh!
 
Well that’s plain nonsense.

Of course some immigrants will end up working in jobs that are off the radar like some people also do who have lived here all their lives.

The vast majority though will be looking for proper employment and will pay tax and NI contributions though.

True - however if we have unemployment then bringing in more immigrants will increase that.


Not withstanding the not unreasonable argument - that theres a lot of jobs immigrants do because the locals dont want to - however the solution to that isnt to bring in outside labour - Its to return welfare to its true definition 'help when youre down so you arent out' and get the wont work scrotes into work.

Thus at the moment immigration isnt beneficial since it simply means the shirkers get to keep shirking - with the billy bonus for some that they now get to blame forriners stealing their jobs**


Why should the country pay an able bodied man benefits because he cant be arsed working

Ditto female - but from what ive seen you w<ould 1st need to seperate those with real mental health issus from the (from my own circle) disproportionatly large number of females that swing the lead on this .


** When I went to work in Cambridge - I was accussed of stealing locals jobs by the usual inbred wont work tossers in the local pub,. That the job required certain skills and qualifications they lacked mattered not one whit - id stolen their job ( Not that they had even heard of the job prior to asking me what i did but meh)
 
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