Will Police Cuts Still go ahead?

Will The Police Still be cut

  • Yes - As expected.

    Votes: 35 74.5%
  • No - They'll have to cancel the cuts.

    Votes: 5 10.6%
  • Yes - There will be reduced cuts.

    Votes: 7 14.9%

  • Total voters
    47
#1
Too bloody right they will.

As I stood by a burning car last night which was trashed by a group of about 20 odd youths I spoke to a witness to the incident. She couldn't understand that there was only three of us at the incident and wanted to know why we weren't baton charging up the street like on Sky News. When I explained that we were the only three bobbies available (From a different area) to make to their estate she was shocked and looking at the clapped out 9 year old mini car derived van we'd turned up in with my colleague having to climb through from the back to the front to get out I think it left a lasting effect on her.

She said well I suppose one good thing to come from this is the police cuts won't happen anymore. I had to hold in my actual thoughts and I limited my reply to "Watch this space."

So like this woman are you confused into believing this will change anything or like me do you believe in a few weeks time the headlines will change and the government will help you forget this.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#3
I see CMD has blamed our 'Sick Society' for everything. Right, so this is not the 'Big society' then no?

Of course the cuts will still happen. As will everything else. AFTER the olympics. In this bankrupt country and whilst all the EU is collapsing financially around us, where else will the money to pay for a functioning and workable society come from?
 
#4
Let me see

Four nights to sort out rioting in London despite 24/7 media coverage, CCTV and social messaging networks

Are you arguing they could be any more useless?

It is not how much money it is what you spend it on - I bet the forms are still being filled in, the E&D advisors edoing their bit etc
 
#5
You are aware that Sky News are already spinning Police Brutality Stories in relation to GMP's bobbies getting kinetic (Which is what seemingly everyone is saying is necessary).

The few bobbies that are out there are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Stand and get bricked or breach orders, charge at the crowd, lay a few baton strikes and risk getting sacked/put in prison.

This situation is unsustainable.
 
#6
You are aware that Sky News are already spinning Police Brutality Stories in relation to GMP's bobbies getting kinetic (Which is what seemingly everyone is saying is necessary).

The few bobbies that are out there are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Stand and get bricked or breach orders, charge at the crowd, lay a few baton strikes and risk getting sacked/put in prison.

This situation is unsustainable.
Declare a state of emergency, suspend human rights legislation. Put a curfew in place and let the rank and file crack some heads.

If some yoghurt knitting pinko complains, arrest them for inciting violence.
 
#7
You are aware that Sky News are already spinning Police Brutality Stories in relation to GMP's bobbies getting kinetic (Which is what seemingly everyone is saying is necessary).

The few bobbies that are out there are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Stand and get bricked or breach orders, charge at the crowd, lay a few baton strikes and risk getting sacked/put in prison.

This situation is unsustainable.
Not just SKY news. Daily Telegraph are sniffily reporting the same incident.

Video: Manchester police confront suspected rioters - Telegraph

With friends like these, who needs enemies?
 
#8
As the riders are cornered, one stops and dismounts? What I saw was people deliberately running down police officers and trying to escape.

Full marks to the police!
 
#9
You are aware that Sky News are already spinning Police Brutality Stories in relation to GMP's bobbies getting kinetic (Which is what seemingly everyone is saying is necessary).

The few bobbies that are out there are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Stand and get bricked or breach orders, charge at the crowd, lay a few baton strikes and risk getting sacked/put in prison.

This situation is unsustainable.
Are we at all surprised the the "nasty coppers" are being highlighted?
Country/media full of hypocrites.
 
#10
I see CMD has blamed our 'Sick Society' for everything. Right, so this is not the 'Big society' then no?

Of course the cuts will still happen. As will everything else. AFTER the olympics. In this bankrupt country and whilst all the EU is collapsing financially around us, where else will the money to pay for a functioning and workable society come from?
The spineless Cameron & most of the rest of the useless tossers in Westminster will still pay £billions of our money to the corrupt third world in aid & more to the bankrupt EU, rather than dare look after the problems in Britain! One has to wonder do they have some form of reciprocal arrangement where a % of this aid is paid into these Politicians Swiss a/c's? Surely it cannot make sense to keep pissing our money down the never filling black holes that are the third world & the unacountable EU?
 
#13
Funny old thing, but having by nature a pretty (small l) liberal nature, I find myself becoming more foam-mouthedly reactionary by the moment. I'm a big fan of minimal government - as long as one follows or subscribes to the law of the land and the values of the nation in which you live. When I see people (and in the case of the looters I am being generous to a fault in species) not following this and in fact throwing two fingers at the nation that has nurtured them (and probably their feckless parents and grand parents too), I expect that nation to unleash hell upon them. This hasn't happened. It won't happen, in fact it can't happen because legislation protects the criminal and handcuffs (geddit) the constabulary, as well as just about guaranteeing that the punishment, if meted out, will in no way fit the crime. I'm overseas at the moment. I'm less certain there is anything to come home for.
 

Trans-sane

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
Its the sa,e problems yet again. Senior management and various vested interest groups tying the hands of the bobby on the street. This morning the Assistant Commisioner of the Met was on talking about the riots. In the 4 minutes between his appearance on the screen and me finishing my breakfast and departing from the TV he managed to say the worl "communites" no less that 6 times. And two of those were preceeded with "the task of re-engaging with..."

Scrotes frankly need to be taught to fear authority. They are mostly too stupid to be reasonable if they think they are stronger. And a succession of ACPO bobs, politicians and legal eagle types have defanged the various Police "Services". I don't want my police providing a service. I want them ENFORCING the law, if necessary with severe blunt-force trauma.

I'd be very suprised if there was a single "police service" in the land that DIDN'T waste money hand over fist like every other government body. There must be a lot of things that can be cut without harming front-line policing. I'd start with all the biffs on desks that claim to be too injured/ill to go on the beat at least once a week. Give them a full assessment, and if they can't do something core business like interviews of suspects, running custody suites or REAL police training courses (certainly not crap like diversity and gender outreach training programs) then send them their P45. Most of the paperwork can probably be binned as well (should cut down on the photocopying and printing budget nicely as well as getting more coppers on patrol. And bring back something similar to the riot act. "If you donm't disperse in one hour we will come on in mob handed and any injuries will be legally considered self-inflicted. No compo for you sunshine."
 
#17
You are aware that Sky News are already spinning Police Brutality Stories in relation to GMP's bobbies getting kinetic (Which is what seemingly everyone is saying is necessary).

The few bobbies that are out there are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Stand and get bricked or breach orders, charge at the crowd, lay a few baton strikes and risk getting sacked/put in prison.

This situation is unsustainable.

Oi PM, Chief Plod here

Yes

You said you wanted my blokes to get heavy and reclaim the streets from the cnuts

I did indeed

Well, the meeja and the usual suspects are now whining 'police brutality'

Yes, terrible of them

Right! Well crack on and VERY PUBLICLY give my blokes cover and while your at it tell that mongette at the HO to STFU, or I pull my blokes back off the streets - YOur call PM.



Will any Chief Plod and ACPO do that?

Will they ****, the lure of a Knighthood is too strong to resist,
 
#18
Oi PM, Chief Plod here

Yes

You said you wanted my blokes to get heavy and reclaim the streets from the cnuts

I did indeed

Well, the meeja and the usual suspects are now whining 'police brutality'

Yes, terrible of them

Right! Well crack on and VERY PUBLICLY give my blokes cover and while your at it tell that mongette at the HO to STFU, or I pull my blokes back off the streets - YOur call PM.



Will any Chief Plod and ACPO do that?

Will they ****, the lure of a Knighthood is too strong to resist,
I did 17 years in the UK Plod and you are 100% right!!!!!!!!!
 
#19
I did 17 years in the UK Plod and you are 100% right!!!!!!!!!
It's an unfortunate fact that while most coppers up to the rank of Sgt are generally hard working and dedicated , most of the Senior Plod 'Professional Class' don't have the rank and files interests at heart. As soon as they sniff that Knighthood it's 'F**K you lads', and it's full steam ahead for the gong and a career as a right on talking head.
 
#20
One thing I have taken from all this nonsense (Other than a tin of food to the bonce) is there is a lot of public support out there for us. I have been left humbled by the amount of volunteers coming out to assist us and even the odd car pulling over and giving us a bit of encouragement along the lines of "F**kin Mash Them Fella's." A fella last night spent hours driving around ID'ing the local sh1t to us as he's a bit of a well known hard nut in the area and rather than filling them in himself he decided to help us get one step ahead of them and bring them in pre-emptively. Community Policing at its best and things like this have not gone un-noticed amongst the rank and file.

Peel's principles tell us we police with the consent of the public and my personal favourite is 'the police are the public and the public are the police.' Whilst the bosses and in all fairness some bobbies have done their best to strip confidence in the police away over the last twenty years its clear that there is still plenty of consent out there and willingness to assist us. There is no doubt that the police have been able to perform better in some areas because of public assistance and encouragement. I hope the bosses acknowledge this.

What we need to do now as Bobbies is not let these people down and try and encourage the government to let us keep our foot on the gas and do our bit in turning HMS UK around from impending doom.

How the feck we're going to do that I don't know but I know The Powers that be are going to do whatever they can now to play this down and scrub it from history so they can get back on with their original plans.
 

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