Will Obama change the World?

Will Obama change the World?

  • Yes, he will change it for good

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  • Rather he will

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  • I rather hope than believe that he will do it

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  • He will rather have to adopt to changing World

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  • He will try but will fail

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  • He will change it but for bad

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  • Obama is a disaster for the USA

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#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/obama_inauguration/7837193.stm

Mr Obama told hundreds of thousands at a rally on Sunday that "the dream of our founders will live on in our time".
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Sunday's massive concert took place at the Lincoln Memorial - on the same steps that Martin Luther King made his "I Have A Dream" speech in 1963 to similar crowds.

Concluding the concert, Mr Obama spoke of his hope that the US would overcome its toughest challenges in generations, saying "anything is possible in America".
I would like to hold a question in a more wide context. So will pres.Obama change the World. I mean significant changes, not cosmetic ones.
 
#2
I rather fear him going the way of Kennedy, lots of rhetoric and nice ideas, but still a lot of conservative voices even in a Democrat Congress. Ironically his assassination might achieve more than he could alive.
 
#3
Sergey,

Your back to your normal drivel, I see.

Simply answer is - he isn't trying to. Whilst the rest of the world may benefit, you imply that he trying to (as Brown has been saying he has) "save the world". Not so - he has enough problems at home. He will have his work cut out getting the US back on its feet.
 
#4
Ahh, its all just a bundle of emotionalism and starry eyed idealism thus far, the only thing hes proved able to do is to use gushing rhetoric, I just can't see how people think that hes going to be any differant to any other president-most move further and further toward the center the longer their term of office goes on...I reckon he won't be able to fix the economy, and thus will be out on his arrse come 2012...
 
#5
He's blair, not Lincoln. Of course he'll change things, just not in the way that many of the people who voted for him think.
 
#7
if the yanks want to repair their foreign realtions, they could try, just for once, appointing a decent secretary of state, look at the last 3, Albright, described as 'as ham-fisted a diplomat as ever walked the earth'. Powell, who had no influence over the administration, or Rice, whos left a state department that after 6 years still can't cooperate with other govt agencies in Iraq or Afghanistan. And now theres Hillary, who, if shes anything like her husbands ideas, will bend over to china whether its the right thing to do or not, and has the ability to annoy people without even trying...
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#8
To original question;

Will he fcuk.

Democrats historically are tied over a barrel when it comes to Israel. Unquestioning and unending support, no matter the fallout from the Arab World. Oh, and don't forget the lack of effort in chasing down and killing the Worlds' No.1 terrorist.

I may despise the redneck attitude of the Republicans, but at least they appeared to want to get the job done.

Clinton refused to see George Tenet (Director of CIA) for his daily briefs throughout his Lewisnsky scandal and beyond. Wasn't interested in global terrorism, and the imminent/ramped up AQ threat. Was (like now) more interested in preserving his international image and no doubt aquiring donations for his future Presidential Library.

Obama is merely different in the sense of his monumental achievement in being the first Black President. That is it. Nothing else. One man does not negate the phallanxes of behind the scenes lobbyists, pressure groups and the pro - Israeli financial elite who help keep the Democrats in business.
 
#9
in_the_cheapseats said:
Sergey,

Your back to your normal drivel, I see.
It's not me exactly. Today BBC-Russian asks (on its forum) this question. So I simply reprodice it. The question is not stupid and the answer is not obvious.

in_the_cheapseats said:
Simply answer is - he isn't trying to. Whilst the rest of the world may benefit, you imply that he trying to (as Brown has been saying he has) "save the world". Not so - he has enough problems at home. He will have his work cut out getting the US back on its feet.
Well, thanks, now I know your point of view.

I see it this way. There is a nuclear reactor and a power generator. A man who is not well aware about these matters in in the central control room. There is a lot of problems with the reactor, with the generator, with fuel supplies, with ecology, with salaries of workers.

In this situation I don't expect much. At best the situation would not be worse. However on some directions some improvements could be achieved.
 
#10
KGB_resident said:
in_the_cheapseats said:
Sergey,

Your back to your normal drivel, I see.
It's not me exactly. Today BBC-Russian asks (on its forum) this question. So I simply reprodice it. The question is not stupid and the answer is not obvious.

in_the_cheapseats said:
Simply answer is - he isn't trying to. Whilst the rest of the world may benefit, you imply that he trying to (as Brown has been saying he has) "save the world". Not so - he has enough problems at home. He will have his work cut out getting the US back on its feet.
Well, thanks, now I know your point of view.

I see it this way. There is a nuclear reactor and a power generator. A man who is not well aware about these matters in in the central control room. There is a lot of problems with the reactor, with the generator, with fuel supplies, with ecology, with salaries of workers.

In this situation I don't expect much. At best the situation would not be worse. However on some directions some improvements could be achieved.
If he can be Clinton without the personality flaws, or even Bush with a good support team and better PR, he'll go far. As Command_doh implied, the massive flaws of Bush masked the fact that he had the right general idea. The style and good PR of Clinton masked the fact that he didn't.
 
#12
He will be an utter disaster for the USA, Western Europe and Asia Pacific. He'll bring back the USSR.
 
#14
jagman said:
He presents well.
However he was only elected becasue he is black.
Does anyone really believe he isn't as corrupt as the rest?
Balls. He got 53%. If he wasn't black he'd have got 70%, given the car crash he was up against.
 

Command_doh

LE
Book Reviewer
#15
PubMaster1 said:
He will be an utter disaster for the USA, Western Europe and Asia Pacific. He'll bring back the USSR.
I am curious as to how this will be achieved. Would you care to elaborate?

Putin is quite focused on bringing back the USSR/Russian strength without the assistance of a man some considerable distance away. And MAD will still appply either way.
 
#17
Problem is that most people have made up their minds about what they want him to deliver - one of the prolems of an "it's all about change " ticket, difficult to control people's expectations. Take the Aussie PM as an example - same as Obama, beat a longstanding PM on a "change" ticket, but has delivered feck all aside for signing a few agreements and making a meaningless apology to the aborigines. Easy.

I think he will fail to deliver, but be very effective in blaming others and outside forces. That is the key to modern politics, find someone to blame.

Obama promised to deliver very little during the election - people came to their own conclusions. Cunning, all he has to do now is keep his sympathy vote up whilst managing down expectations. After all, he has promised nothing.

Standby for a rush of flunkys to decend on the Whitehouse that will make Cherie Blair look sane. Every two bit snake oil salesman will be there, so his first job will be to clean out these flunkies that think they are owed because that are of the right skin colour or political persuasion. They will be his worst enemies, because they know that the "Emperor is wearing no clothes", but they will struggle to find a platform outside marginalised blogs and Fox TV. The mainstream media have already decided that Obama can do no wrong, just as they decided that George W was going to be a disaster because he was a Texan. Standby for marginal stories of Mrs Obama being a complete cow to domestic underlings, just like Hilary Clinton, who had an appalling reputation for treating staff like animals.

I think he'll be Clinton without the fun and frankly boring. Slick but dull.

His Preseidency will be marked by unfair comparisions to JFK and Martin Luther King.

Frankly he will do very little, because he doesn't have to.

The main aim of high political office these days is not reform, social justice, foreign policy or any of thet bulls@t, let the civil servants do that. The real aim of political office now is to make money - Clinton, Blair, any ZNL ex minister with a book in WH Smith for £11.99. Another spin off is an abundant source of domestic helpers paid for by the taxpayer

Once you are elected, the work has been done.

Will he get slotted? Unlikely. US security around him now is so tight that the obvious redneck racists will have no chance and the more sophisicated threats will have no need to slot him.
 
#18
Yes he will change the world.

He's already cured my encroaching male pattern baldness.
 
#19
angular said:
He's blair, not Lincoln. Of course he'll change things, just not in the way that many of the people who voted for him think.
Beat me to it; Obama is Blair with a suntan. :roll:
 
#20
jagman said:
parapauk said:
jagman said:
He presents well.
However he was only elected becasue he is black.
Does anyone really believe he isn't as corrupt as the rest?
Balls. He got 53%. If he wasn't black he'd have got 70%, given the car crash he was up against.
Yeh right
Quite. If he had been white his name wouldn't have even made it onto the ballot paper for the primaries with his (rather light) CV. State senator for a handful of years and US senator for 2 years from a 1-party state?
 

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