Will I be able to wear commando flashes in the Rifles?

Stumpy4154

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#61
That’s only because of the REs relentless search for kudos for lesser units.

They still haven’t found any :wink:
Fixed for you. Usual fee applies.;)
 

Stumpy4154

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#63
Have seen commando mudguards from Royal Marines, Navy and Army. Have yet to see RAF Commando. All joking aside, is there such a thing as RAF Commando?
In 2000, when I was toying with joining the TA/Army Reserves a few years after leaving the regulars, my local RE unit was 131 Ind. Cdo. Sqn and there was an RAF officer going through the training towards the AACC with them. Not sure if he passed as my ACL went twang before I could start the build up phase and I had to knock it on the head.
 
#69
In 2000, when I was toying with joining the TA/Army Reserves a few years after leaving the regulars, my local RE unit was 131 Ind. Cdo. Sqn and there was an RAF officer going through the training towards the AACC with them. Not sure if he passed as my ACL went twang before I could start the build up phase and I had to knock it on the head.
131 have put at least one of their guys through the AR basic course after he completed the Reserve Cdo course recently, I bet that was a worthwhile two weeks training.
 
#74
Have seen commando mudguards from Royal Marines, Navy and Army. Have yet to see RAF Commando. All joking aside, is there such a thing as RAF Commando?
ISTR that the final OC 6 Squadron in its Jaguar days took (and passed) the AACC to delay some rather dreary short ground tour that Innsworth (as was) had planned for him prior to his taking command.

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They were servicing commando apparently, but that just opens up another Pandora’s box....
Mountbatten's fault. The need for a forward servicing echelon to get captured airfields back into use by friendly aircraft was noted by Director, Fighter Operations who, as can be seen, wanted them to be Commandos who possessed the specialist skills required to get an airfield up and running:

Installing the essential minimum of communications, refuelling and re-arming equipment and personnel … It must be a very highly trained organisation, having high morale and esprit de corps … The desired result can probably be obtained by forming a number of Flight Servicing Units as permanent entities on the establishments of Fighter Groups. Because they have a permanent entity, they can be highly trained both in servicing aircraft and in the business of going in over the beaches or perhaps airborne to an advanced aerodrome. They obtain RAF esprit de corps by their association with the Group. They should obtain ‘Combined Operations’ esprit de corps by their thorough training, which they must inevitably be given for the purposes of going in over the beaches. (They should be “RAF Commandos.”)​

Mountbatten endorsed this, and suggested the title of 'Servicing Commando'

Jack Slessor, then an AVM and ACAS (Policy) fought a losing battle on behalf of the RAF over the name:

I don’t like the term ‘Commando’ in this connection; they are mobile servicing flights and no more. It’s ridiculous if everyone who may ever be landed on the Continent has got to call himself a Commando. The RAF should be, and are, ready to serve anywhere in any circumstances without giving themselves fancy titles.​

Mountbatten won... That said, the volunteers for the Servicing Commandos did have some interesting and less-than-stereotypical-for-the-RAF training at Inveraray, so they weren't just given the name 'commando' as some sort of RAF-driven bid to have commandos, but who had no commando training whatsoever, as some commentators (rather oddly) have apparently suggested every now and then (I say 'apparently', since I can't point to any examples, but have heard a non-SCU veteran [he trained them...] lament the fact that this view appeared to be in circulation)
 
#75
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You earned it, you can wear it.

I tend to agree.

I lost some of the stuff I earned, so I tried to find them again. It wasn't difficult.

Vintage Scout Proficiency series C Badge - Master at Arms (JJJ) • £1.00

VINTAGE 1970's BOY SCOUTS UNIFORM WITH BADGES PATCHES, BERET NECKERCHIEF SHORTS • £9.99

VINTAGE 1970s CUB SCOUT JUMPER, BERET, CAP & SCARF ETC | #245235379



Just in case anyone thinks I'm walting, here is a photo of me 'back in the day':






Hard paper round!
 
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They were servicing commando apparently, but that just opens up another Pandora’s box....
Further to @Archimedes archive of RAF kniwledge.
Think there's a reference to them in one of Christopher Shores excellent 2nd RAF series.
They weren't Achnacarry, Green beretted, Commando trained personnel but they conducted some infantry training, SAA and wore Army khaki. The various air commandoes could ostensibly take themselves to a potentially hostile area and establish an airfield.
A lot of 2nd TAF close support aircrew also took to wearing Army khaki in the Normandy campaign to aid distinction.

PS @Solo Dave - Not sure why the disagree - I recalled a statement made by a colleague who wasn't allowed to wear his dolphins whilst in RAF Regt. Think he wore them on his Army No2s though.
 

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