Why the Guardian is good for you!

#1
As well as top quality articles from our Minty an interesting letter in the paper today!

Having noted the appearance of the official British army fitness programme last week, I have to say that it's reassuring to see some acknowledgment from within my own organisation that the Guardian is seen as a respected heavyweight sparring partner.

As a serving army officer, I regard a daily read of the Guardian as essential.

It may be heavy going and at times it might verge on the unpalatable - but it challenges any idle intellectual preconceptions I may have, dislodging them and flushing them away, while keeping my brain in good working order.

In this respect I feel that the Guardian does for my intellect what a large bowl of bran flakes does for my bowels, and so I am reluctant to give up either.

Colonel Mark Hainge
Salisbury, Wiltshire
 

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#3
He'll be on the fast-track promotion list to the top of the politi . . . armed forces hierarchy if this gets out then.
 
#4
Michael White, political editor, that staunch defender of Gordon Brown.


Hmmm, I dip into the Guardian for the quality of it's journalism but as for the line taken by it's editorial, forget it.
 
#5
Are you certain Colonel Mark Hainge of Salisbury, Wiltshire, isn't some Trot with a sense of humour? Does the good Colonel appear on any list, that is, a list not compiled by MI5?
 
#6
There's nothing wrong with the Guardian (apart from Polly Toynbee, the Weekend magazine, and the assumption that Labour is A Good Thing), but the readers have an incredible ability to fuck me off:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/readerseditor/story/0,,2240453,00.html

Another reader said he wouldn't be buying the paper during the series. "As a pacifist I will not support the shameful promotion," he said. "Linking the army with improving health and wellbeing is surely some sort of sick joke." An email from another disapproving reader appeared to concede that the exercise regime might be useful. "When I'm fit enough I'll jog to the newsagents and cancel for six weeks," he said...

The invasion of Iraq and the ongoing war were sore points for some readers. "I started to read the British army fitness booklet that fell out of today's paper but I was gripped by an overwhelming urge to invade Iraq, so I put it out for recycling," was one biting comment.
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#7
Rumpelstiltskin said:
There's nothing wrong with the Guardian (apart from Polly Toynbee, the Weekend magazine, and the assumption that Labour is A Good Thing), but the readers have an incredible ability to fuck me off:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/readerseditor/story/0,,2240453,00.html

Another reader said he wouldn't be buying the paper during the series. "As a pacifist I will not support the shameful promotion," he said. "Linking the army with improving health and wellbeing is surely some sort of sick joke." An email from another disapproving reader appeared to concede that the exercise regime might be useful. "When I'm fit enough I'll jog to the newsagents and cancel for six weeks," he said...

The invasion of Iraq and the ongoing war were sore points for some readers. "I started to read the British army fitness booklet that fell out of today's paper but I was gripped by an overwhelming urge to invade Iraq, so I put it out for recycling," was one biting comment.
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But sometimes they f$ck off the right people? Remember when they organised a reader's email tree to urge US voters during the last US Presidential election not to vote Bush? Oh how the Septics whinged!

Then there was the Charlie Brooker incident when he (jokingly) encouraged readers to assassinate George Bush. All hell broke loose, the FBI became involved, enraged Yanks put Brooker on death lists run by extremely hairy Oregon survivalists, evangelical Christians prayed for him (in between oiling their rifles and ogling their daughters) and the Guardian editor shamefully caved in, filleted the article on the website and grovelled to the humourless Yanks.

On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod's law dictates he'll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now that we need you?

http://home.valornet.com/rolandtignor/demoncrats20.htm
The final sentence of a column in The Guide on Saturday caused offence to some readers. The Guardian associates itself with the following statement from the writer.

"Charlie Brooker apologises for any offence caused by his comments relating to President Bush in his TV column, Screen Burn. The views expressed in this column are not those of the Guardian. Although flippant and tasteless, his closing comments were intended as an ironic joke, not as a call to action - an intention he believed regular readers of his humorous column would understand. He deplores violence of any kind."

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001196.php
Who is this depraved individual, pretending to be an "enlighteed" journalist? And the Guardian, allows this kind of drivel to be published? Well, sadly, I am not surprised.
BTW, shouldnt the Secret Service be paying this so-called journalist a visit?

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001196.php
 
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Rumpelstiltskin said:
There's nothing wrong with the Guardian (apart from Polly Toynbee, the Weekend magazine, and the assumption that Labour is A Good Thing), but the readers have an incredible ability to fuck me off:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/readerseditor/story/0,,2240453,00.html

Another reader said he wouldn't be buying the paper during the series. "As a pacifist I will not support the shameful promotion," he said. "Linking the army with improving health and wellbeing is surely some sort of sick joke." An email from another disapproving reader appeared to concede that the exercise regime might be useful. "When I'm fit enough I'll jog to the newsagents and cancel for six weeks," he said...

The invasion of Iraq and the ongoing war were sore points for some readers. "I started to read the British army fitness booklet that fell out of today's paper but I was gripped by an overwhelming urge to invade Iraq, so I put it out for recycling," was one biting comment.
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I'm afraid that is typical of the sort of bien passant lunatic views held by some of the readership. Like you, its the main reason it gets up my nose - which is a shame as some of the stories are well worth reading.

I often think that many of the letters that are submitted to the letters page, are hand scrawled in green ink. I once worked with a prolific Guardian letter writer. He had a beard, was a cycling Nazi and a militant vegitarian. He fitted every stereotype. He was also a cnut.
 
#11
Last time I looked at the Torygraph it was knee deep in articles extolling Boris Johnson, and seemingly endless reports of vicars behaving badly with choir boys. It was also owned by Conrad Black. The Times, on the other hand, kept publishing articles - penned by staff journalists - saying how utterly, wonderfully, blindingly, brilliant Sky TV is. Does Max Hastings still write for the Guardian? Has he been forgiven in military circles for his behaviour in the Falklands? It was a long time ago.
 
#13
The Telegraph's generally right on domestic issues and defence, but hopelessly clueless on foriegn affairs. Has by far the best obituaries.

The Guardian's generally wrong on domestic issues, doesn't understand defence, but good on international relations, esp. small Central Asian countries that the Telegraph doesn't realise exist unless we're likely to invade... doesn't believe in war, unless it's to intervene in wartorn countries with pink fluffy tanks that don't hurt people, drive on biofuel and fire Chelsea buns.
 
#14
The Times ability to report anything factual and unbiased is lacking. Yes all its staff are pretty natty with their english and it is easy to read but it has stopped being objective. Also it has Jeremy C which is ther other redeaming feature.

The only excuse for the reading the Guardian is to "know thine enemy", it is far to lefty and upon reading the Jobs section you discover where all the taxpayers money goes and then suffer cardiac arrest after reading the job titled "lesbian outreach care worker need to impoverished ethnic minority empowerment"



The only paper worth reading is the FT.

TMS
 
#15
The_Majors_Son said:
The only paper worth reading is the FT.
Spot on. It always had the best industrial relation coverage. The leaders of industry didn't want guff about how Arthur Scargill ate pussy cats, but did want to know exactly how the power lay in the NUM National Executive.

No other Morning Star readers here I suppose? Similar to the FT: proper hard nosed journalism, not a bad sports section, and a decent editorial line (Marxist-Leninist in the day. God knows what it is now. Green? Liberal? New Age?)
 

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#16
Rumpelstiltskin said:
There's nothing wrong with the Guardian (apart from Polly Toynbee, the Weekend magazine, and the assumption that Labour is A Good Thing), but the readers have an incredible ability to fuck me off:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/readerseditor/story/0,,2240453,00.html

Another reader said he wouldn't be buying the paper during the series. "As a pacifist I will not support the shameful promotion," he said. "Linking the army with improving health and wellbeing is surely some sort of sick joke." An email from another disapproving reader appeared to concede that the exercise regime might be useful. "When I'm fit enough I'll jog to the newsagents and cancel for six weeks," he said...

The invasion of Iraq and the ongoing war were sore points for some readers. "I started to read the British army fitness booklet that fell out of today's paper but I was gripped by an overwhelming urge to invade Iraq, so I put it out for recycling," was one biting comment.
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Have been a Guardian reader for over twenty years and it certainly never put me off joining the Army and fighting in third world Asian countries! Don't mind Toynbee myself, she's done some pretty insightful stuff on poverty in the UK over the years. Her first book on the working poor in the early 1970's had her taking a series of low paid jobs including a Pte in the WRAC. It's the likes of Seumas Milne and Madeline Bunting, but they are just a part of a very broad spectrum of contributors.

Like yourself though, what has always annoyed me, are the letter writers (I think Private Eye once did a spoof of a "Grauniad" letters' page). There are of course exceptions to this (like the Colonel noted above) and even the occasional gem. My all time favourite though, dates back to the late 1980's and was in response to the unfortunate heavy handed treatment by the Moscow police of the Guardian's correspondent, Martin Walker. I'm relying on memory, but it was short, sweet and terribly, terribly bad form:
"So the Guardian's pet commie apologist got beaten up by the KGB. Pardon me while I laugh."

Edited to add: It's also the only British paper (AFAIK) to carry the Doonesbury cartoon.
 

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