Why Telegraph is a vulgar newspaper...

#1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...ngi25.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/25/ixhome.html

Wartime GIs went on rampage of rape and murder
By Ben Fenton
(Filed: 25/04/2006)

The full extent of the crime wave that the "overpaid, oversexed and over here" American forces brought to wartime Britain is disclosed today.
...
Figures show that, of the 122 rapes committed by Americans between 1943 and 1945, six perpetrators were executed. Five were black and the sixth was a Mexican-American who raped a 75-year-old widow at her Staffordshire home.
Virulent anti-Americanism of Telegraph is too well-known. However it outperformed itself in this case. No one word has been said in the article about great contribution of American army in the liberation of Europe.

But these crimes committed by the few can't blacken image of American people and we should remember fallen heroes that sacrificed thier lives for freedom and independence of European nations including independence of the UK.

This so called 'journalist' from Telegraph uses his poisonous pen to describe this cheap 'sensation' if full colours. Shame!
 
#3
KGB_resident said:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/25/ngi25.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/25/ixhome.html

Wartime GIs went on rampage of rape and murder
By Ben Fenton
(Filed: 25/04/2006)

The full extent of the crime wave that the "overpaid, oversexed and over here" American forces brought to wartime Britain is disclosed today.
...
Figures show that, of the 122 rapes committed by Americans between 1943 and 1945, six perpetrators were executed. Five were black and the sixth was a Mexican-American who raped a 75-year-old widow at her Staffordshire home.
Virulent anti-Americanism of Telegraph is too well-known. However it outperformed itself in this case. No one word has been said in the article about great contribution of American army in the liberation of Europe.

But these crimes committed by the few can't blacken image of American people and we should remember fallen heroes that sacrificed thier lives for freedom and independence of European nations including independence of the UK.

This so called 'journalist' from Telegraph uses his poisonous pen to describe this cheap 'sensation' if full colours. Shame!
The Telegraph does always run terrific military obituaries.

Hope to see yours there soon :D
 
#4
Sergey you have gone too far this time. I know English isn't your first language and I couldn't begin to post on a thread in Russian, but you are so wide of the mark in your interpretation of this article's meaning that I wonder if you know what it was really about.
 
#5
Lucky_Jim said:
Sergey you have gone too far this time. I know English isn't your first language and I couldn't begin to post on a thread in Russian, but you are so wide of the mark in your interpretation of this article's meaning that I wonder if you know what it was really about.
Your Lordship!

Explain it me please. First of all, do you agree that the article is anti-American?
 
#6
naguere said:
The Telegraph does always run terrific military obituaries.

Hope to see yours there soon :D
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Old Jewish anecdode springs in mind.

- Rebe Isaak, what is yout heath?
- Your wait in vain!
 
#7
No I truly don't Sergey. I have to toddle off now but if this thread is still alive tomorrow I'll try to explain why (unless someone else does it first).
 
#8
The article is not anti American rather it is stating some historical facts, without any comment. HMG colluded with the US to hide a problem for the greater good, remember Nazi propaganda made great play of Americans sleeping with British soldiers wives whilst the Brits were away (Remember the Nazis - they were the ones Comrade Stalin made a treaty with).

Given the numbers of US servicemen who came to the UK at that time the figures for crime are about those to be statistically expected. The racist slant was in line with the times, though thankfully would not be tolerated now.
 
#9
The Telegraph is the only paper that actually gives a positive view on the military! All the rest think any one in a uniform is an evil baby eating rapist that pissses on Iraqis.
 
#10
The thing is to remember that when you take into account the millions of men that were here prior to D Day, the actual numbers of incidents were quite small. Is the person that started this thread saying that every American Soldier was a saint before he was called up and would have never got into any trouble.
 
#11
Sergey, you have accused The Daily Telegraphof being 'vulgar' before, and here again - as before - you display a complete lack of understanding of both the term 'vulgar' and The Daily Telegraph.

As always, I suspect that you are simply doing this in order to get a rise out of people here on ARRSE, and are therefore choosing to 'not understand'. It is quite simply hilarious to see you accusing this newspaper of anti-Americanism, especially in the instance of this particular article, as you have spent a great deal of your time here on ARRSE doing nothing but engage in either outright or insidious anti-Westernism in general and anti-Americanism in particular, usually by trawling about on the fringes of the internet and attempting to draw spurious moral comparisons between the Soviet Gulag (and other crimes of Communism) and various incidences in the West. Most pointedly, you have liberally quoted and referenced The Guardian, that well-known bastion of pro-Westernism and pro-Americanism (I don't think) as if from Holy script.

The Daily Telegraph is considered, even by its 'enemies', to be the newspaper of the upper reaches of British society - this is partly the reason why it is jokingly referred to as 'The Torygraph'. It is socially, politically, religiously, morally, and historically conservative in its outlook. It has employed, and still continues to employ, some of the finest journalists/writers in the English language. It is solidly pro-Army (and pro the wider Armed Forces) and solidly Royalist. It gives attention in its pages to items that other newspapers do not, and indeed have never, given attention to. It is the only newspaper that I know of which prints a Court Circular, which forms part of its 'Court & Social' page. It is distinctly highbrow in its approach to the Arts ad literature, and is a staunch defender of Western culture in general and British culture in particular. Unlike even many broadsheets, it has not surrendered to the widespread obsession with cheap celebrity 'culture', which is truly vulgar; I won't even bother to compare it to the tabloids, which have consistently made vulgarity their own...

I suspect that you resent The Daily Telegraph primarily because it stands for the things which you Sergey - as an unrepentant apologist for the USSR and Communism in general - naturally loath, as they are things that are quite simply beyond your understanding, and which, by their very existence and survival in the face of the onslaught launched against them by the philistines of the system you so miss, are a living rebuke to that system.

On a pedantic point, Cambridge dictionaries online gives the following two definitions for the term 'vulgar', which as you can see highlight your misapplication of it to The Daily Telegraph.

Vulgar - not suitable, simple, graceful or beautiful; common or not in the style preferred by the upper classes of society

Vulgar – rude and likely to upset or anger people, especially by referring to sex and the body in an unpleasant way

I await you next fruitless proletarian assault on the pillars of Western society...with raised eyebrow :mrgreen:
 
#12
This appears to be about an imbalance in the American military law system, related to race

We know there were race issues half a century ago, we know there are race issues now, unfortunately swift military justice including the death penalty appears to have been applied in WW2 UK, the stats as presented appear to present a certain picture

I'm sure there is a bleeding heart liberal cause for concern and I'm sure someone will research deeper and possibly start a campaign

Surely most of the GI's on death row were recruited for suicidal, you ain't all coming back, behind enemy lines type missions by telly Savalas

As for Sergy, at least he's taken his gopping face off his avatar
 
#13
Gallowglass!

gallowglass said:
Vulgar – rude and likely to upset or anger people, especially by referring to sex and the body in an unpleasant way
Indeed, unpleasant naturalistic details have been scrutinized in the artcle. Is the only objective of the article to inform? I doubt. Wanted the author it or not, he contributed in creation of negative image of American armed forces.

gallowglass said:
The Daily Telegraph is considered, even by its 'enemies', to be the newspaper of the upper reaches of British society...
Upper reaches? Rather it is a newspaper for servants of upper riches. Do you think that exellently educated elite would be interested in this info? (look at today's Telegraph news' frontpage)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...tab26.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/26/ixhome.html

A jealous wife compared herself to the Princess of Wales before stabbing her husband's former mistress, a court heard yesterday.

Alethea Foster said: "Like the late, lamented Princess of Wales, there's three of us in this marriage," as she launched a ferocious assault on her rival, Julie Simpson.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...gan26.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/04/26/ixhome.html

The long-standing lover of a parish councillor with interests in paganism and witchcraft drugged, mutilated and murdered him then dumped his body five miles out to sea, a court was told yesterday.
gallowglass said:
It is solidly pro-Army
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/04/23/narmy123.xml

Don't you think that Telegraph presents scientific invetigation performed by the MoD as an intention to substitute HM Armed Forces by a gang of criminals. Selected quotes portray British top officers as Britain-haters.

In a speech to infantry officers last year, revealed by The Sunday Telegraph, Major Gen Graeme Lamb branded many recruits as "cocky and arrogant and brought up on a diet of football brats and binge drinking…who are not educated in and able to recognise self-discipline".
Maybe, British young generation is the worst in the World? Lies! No doubt that the words said by the general were deliberately taken from the context.

True patriotic newspaper would write that there are some, very few those that unfit for military service but vast majority are outstanding lads and lassies and Great Britain is proud to have such educated, sportive, politically active new generation, that is ready to defend the Crown and help other nations to establish true democracy.
 
#14
True patriotic newspapers do not report the news after conferring with Party central, they report the news. You are confused between patriotism and loyalty to the tenets upon which a country is held together and politicians. You are further confused between reporting the news and commenting on the news. The British broadsheets by and large report the news fairly, and I include the Guardian and Independant, in that statement. Where they differ is in the commentary they record about the news. The Telegraph is pro Armed Forces - but it doesn't follow any line put out by the MOD.
 
#15
Russian skinheads brutally attack TV producers and ministers
04/03/2006 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Crimes


TV producer Elkhan Mirzoyev was attacked and beaten on Monday night in the Moscow metro. According to the victim, he was traveling in a train in the metro when several young men entered a carriage at one of the stations. All the men were drinking beer


Pravda reported...... russian louts.
 
#16
Sergey, you allude to 'upper riches' instead of 'upper reaches' in a vain attempt to say that the rich in this country are evil and keep the lowly serfs down under a jackboot of oppression. I would like to point out that under this system even what we would call the 'working class' could go to any communist s*ithole and live like kings compared to their equivalent in that country. And need I remind you that under your system it is meant to be all about parity for the lowly worker!? Oh and by the way, we haven't subjected our working class to policies such as 'breaking the peasantry' nor any form of 'cultural revolution' which murdered tens of millions under the great communist leaders Stalin and Mao.

Time to bring up Pol Pot? 8O
 
#17
#18
A man comes home early in the morning. His wife asks him:
"Where have you been, bastard?"
He answers:
"I came into the bar with my friends. We took a drink, then we drank again... I came out and saw the earth began to rise and bashed up my face. So I had to stay for the whole night."

This is apparently, a TOP CLASS Russian joke.

It seems that it's not just Russian points of view that travel badly.
 
#19
Tilly said:
Sergey, you allude to 'upper riches' instead of 'upper reaches' in a vain attempt to say that the rich in this country are evil and keep the lowly serfs down under a jackboot of oppression. I would like to point out that under this system even what we would call the 'working class' could go to any communist s*ithole and live like kings compared to their equivalent in that country. And need I remind you that under your system it is meant to be all about parity for the lowly worker!? Oh and by the way, we haven't subjected our working class to policies such as 'breaking the peasantry' nor any form of 'cultural revolution' which murdered tens of millions under the great communist leaders Stalin and Mao.

Time to bring up Pol Pot? 8O
Tilly!

I have an impression that you have a time-machine and only today have arrived from 80's. Wake up please. Russia is a capitalist country and there is only one diffrerence: the rich in Russia are bandits and crooks (like mr.Abramovitch) while the rich in the UK are mainly grand-...-sons of bandits and crooks. City of London is a ... right... a nest of thieves and we in Russia have our own thieves, a lot of them.

Probably you urges me that British 'working class' lives in capitalist paradise. Maybe... so communal workers orginise strikes apparently because they are too lazy.

Returning to the theme of this thread I would like to express my private opinion. Telegraph is oriented on wide conservative 'masses' and uses the same languge and spelling as the 'masses'.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/03/02/nspell02.xml

The poor spelling and grammar of highly-qualified undergraduates has been exposed
...
More than half - 53 per cent - misspelt "separate" as "seperate"
OK. But maybe Telegraph is an example of fine, absolutely correct English?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/main.jhtml?xml=/property/2006/01/11/pclutter11.xml

Include seperate folders for every member of the family
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/18/nbarc18.xml

Seperate accounts showed that The Business, the European business newspaper, made a loss of £6.5 million in the same period.
Frankly speaking I don't know are these accounts true if they are seperate

Is Telegraph an independent or independant source of information? Prabably the later.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/global/main.jhtml?xml=/global/2004/09/06/brnexam04.xml

Girls' schools lead way in A* chase
By John Clare, Education Editor
(Filed: 06/09/2004)

The top independant schools
Look, it is an article by Education Editor. No comments.

I'm sure that the rich use independent schools. I believe that the rich are as a rule well educated and prefer more serious newspapers than Telegraph, that is vulgar in its core.

PS. In Soviet times Russians knew that news is a propaganda but people in the West still thinks that a propaganda is news.
 
#20
Wha_Dar said:
Russian skinheads brutally attack TV producers and ministers
04/03/2006 [article] / Hotspots and Incidents / Crimes


TV producer Elkhan Mirzoyev was attacked and beaten on Monday night in the Moscow metro. According to the victim, he was traveling in a train in the metro when several young men entered a carriage at one of the stations. All the men were drinking beer


Pravda reported...... russian louts.
I rarely read this so called 'newspaper' - Pravda. This case was widely reported (including leading agencies, newspapers, TV). Recently 17 yo. boy (ethnically Armenian) was killed by 16 yo Russian boy in Metro in the centre of Moscow. This case is so unusual that it attracted very big attention of Russian mass-media. Many suggest that the killing has a racial, nationalist ground.
 

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