Why not just say they are black?

#1
Why is it that when a "white male/female" commits a crime, the offender is described as a white male/female? Yet when it is a "black" offender there is hardly ever, if any, mention of their colour.

There are two recent incidents that come to mind. Firstly the two PCSO's beaten up in Croydon, were attacked by a group of black youths. There was no mention of their colour, which in fact has some bearing on the dynamics of the situation.

Then secondly there was an incident on a plane where a hostess was bottled and an attempt was made to open the emergency door. The offenders were described as Briitish, with the ommision of their colour. One may contend that the colour reference is superfluous, but then why refer to it when it's a white person commiting an offence?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7527873.stm

I hope this hasn't come across as racist, as this is not my intention, I just want to point out a journalistic discrepancy.
 
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#2
You looking to hire a wagon and some horses? We can throw in the pitchforks and torches for free.
 
#4
I have a cross we didn't use last year as rain stopped our meeting from taking place. It's yours for ten quid mate!

Edit to add: Jerrican of petrol will cost you extra though.
 
#5
Jesus blimmin' christ. I know im not genius, what a shite post.

You want the truth destroyer?

Its because the jew media and ZOG (zionist Occupation Government) want to warp our noble white minds so we can all be enslaved by the mud peoples.

ffs....
 
#6
I don't think it's a shite post, make the thing equal and mention the skin colour for all or none at all, just the same if there was a music of white origin award this year ???? You may have opened the can here Destroyer but started a bit of a decent debate/rant, well done.
 
#7
It might be a tad unpleasant but it is a valid point.
Presumably we are told when the naughty people are white to prove some kind of point and obviously when the naughty people are black its not the right message to tell us so?
You would think that somebody would eventually realise that all "positive discrimination" achieves is to piss off average bloke in the street.
If its relevant to tell us when an offender is white then its relevant if they are black too.
 

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#8
heidtheba said:
I've got some buckshee white sheets if you need them...............
I can supply a cross, some petrol & matches......

Wouldn't want to see him improperly dressed.
 
#10
Perhaps it is a conscious attempt to counterbalance the racist held (and wildly inaccurate) viewpoint that all crime is exclusively committed by black people?

But I agree with the comment above, the whole issue of Music of Black Origin (MOBO) awards is racially offensive and perpetuates division. To label someone as being racist simply for mentioning it is just daft.

Presumably the deliberate omission of the colour of someone's skin (if they are non white) and the tacit promotion of the MOBO awards and other forms of cultural appeasment have been promoted by the PC brigade. Shame, it is patronising to black people, offensive to white people and merely perpetuates stereotyping.

Whatever next? Transgender chat hosts and celebrity performances? Oh no, that's already been done to death bi J(I)an Hamilton
 
#11
Don't get me wrong, I am not the all grand arbiter of good conversation but in what way is this a good topic?

Is it really thought provoking? Hasn't it been discussed a thousand times before by the same people that sday things like "Now, im a not a racist but...." or "Black people? yeah my sister married one didn't she, nice bloke, they're not all bad eh".

Its the sought of debate you'd here on Talksport by that cnut Jon Gaunt where the white van driving Scum readers get all irate and bothered and phone up full of bile and vitriol.

And, why bother mentioning the race anyway? We know the beeb is honycombed with communists and lets face it, the beeb is always banging on about black crime, or to be more precise, black on black crime.
 
#12
Look, erm, I'm not racist at all, but this complete non-story is starting to erode the huge chips on both my shoulders :roll:
 
#13
pyrogenica said:
Presumably the deliberate omission of the colour of someone's skin (if they are non white) and the tacit promotion of the MOBO awards and other forms of cultural appeasment have been promoted by the PC brigade. Shame, it is patronising to black people, offensive to white people and merely perpetuates stereotyping.
I agree completely, I don't understand the point MOBO etc, I mean, surely by creating this they are creating divisions?

And lets face it, Urban black culture (I'll be honest, I cannot think of a definition of black culture, but I know I hate rap/hiphop/ music and shitty low rise jeans) is rife in inner cities.
 
#14
It's funny how some people are insinuating that I am a racist for bringing up such a point, when my intention was solely to make an honest observation of what I percieve to be an inequality in reporting methods.

The problem these days is that you can't even discuss issues pertaining to "ethnic minorities" without being shouted down or accussed of being a racist.
 
#15
How is it that black people can come out with racist shit ? This fucking Estelle no mark bumps her gums.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/mar/28/news.race

"Singling out Adele and Duffy, who she knocked off the number one spot at the weekend, she says: "I'm not mad at them, but I'm wondering - how the hell is there not a single black person in the press singing soul? Adele ain't soul. She sounds like she heard some Aretha records once, and she's got a deeper voice - that don't mean she's soul. That don't mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of my life as a black person. As a songwriter, I get what they do. As a black person, I'm like: you're telling me this is my music? Fuck that!"

"My music"

There you go fellas ( and lasses and all of you from all colours, creeds and that sh1t)

Let that one boil your p1ss for a while.
 
#16
It's called positive discrimination, it is also disgraceful!! A byproduct of an overly PC society.
 
#17
Bigdumps said:
And, why bother mentioning the race anyway? We know the beeb is honycombed with communists and lets face it, the beeb is always banging on about black crime, or to be more precise, black on black crime.
Having watched God alone knows how many "Police Camera Action" and Cops With Cameras" type programs, it is impossible not to notice that the vast majority of the perpetrators of the crimes are deeply suntanned, regardless of the type of crime - assault, armed robbery or just driving offences and regardless of whether it has been recorded in UK or over the pond. Is this coincidence, or has it been purposely edited to show up coloured people as being bad, or is it simply that they really are responsible for most crime.

Perhaps that is the reason that they mention the colour when it is a "white person", because otherwise everyone will assume it was a coloured person.
 
#18
the_guru said:
How is it that black people can come out with racist s*** ? This * Estelle no mark bumps her gums.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/mar/28/news.race
Just read that article, reading between the lines it looks like Estelle is incinuating some sort of racism is stopping people from buying music from Black artists. Maybe if it wasn't made by arrogant kn0bbers who can't dress themselves or voice over a track without giving it all 'Yo, yo, yo' b0llocks then people would buy it. There are people with genuine talent out there, just don't claim discrimination when no-one likes your music, that's your as in YOURS, not your culture's.

the_guru said:
That don't mean nothing to me in the grand scheme of my life as a black person.
Why, if this was reversed and someone said white person, it would be seen as a bit racist?
 
#19
I liked Paul Ince's response to the press interrogations the other month:

"Wow Paul, you're the first black manager in the Premiership. Isn't that just swell?"

"Arrsed? I manage football teams, and don't give a sh*t what colour my skin is. It doesn't affect my coaching talent in any way."

(Or words to that effect)

The same people concurrently ran a story on how John Barnes was finding it impossible to get a decent managerial post anywhere above the Conference. Because he's black. Erm, here's a thought: Maybe the boring, stupid barsteward makes for a rubbish manager and no-one wants him for the simple reason he can't do the job? The bloke has no personality (as proven from his TV shows) and I don't think he'd be much cop. Same reason I don't think Shearer will ever make a good manager, no matter how much the Geordies pray for their next manager.
 

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#20
I tell you what really grips my sh!t!

I called the rozzers to report my pushbike stolen from my garden last week.

Went through all the usual details, like what the bike was, what it looked like, features, extras, my location, estimate of time it was stolen, how they would inform me if they found it etc etc etc.

All pretty sensible stuff until she asked me one more question:

"OK sir, one more question, and you are not obliged to answer of course, but may I ask your ethnic background for the files?"

"No you fcuking well may not PC Sanjive, it's got sod all to do with the theft of the bike, has no bearing on it's recovery, but if it helps . . . . the bike is white!" :evil:
 

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