Why did nobody stop Gordon Brown?

#1
So Alastair Darling has finally taken the revenge he has waited so patiently for.

And yet again statements of the bleeding obvious arises, e.g. The Independent

".....we have to look back and conclude that his behaviour should have ruled him out of high office."

"The portrait of Gordon Brown that emerges from the memoirs and diaries is so bad that it can't all be his fault."

John Rentoul: Why did nobody stop Gordon Brown? - John Rentoul, Commentators - The Independent

Well I never. What a surprise.

No it was not all his fault. Gordon Brown was utterly bonkers, wholly unfit for any public office whatsoever.

He just got himself to the top of a vast pyramid of craven self interested shits also unfit for public office (aka the Labour Party.)
 
#2
"He just got himself to the top of a vast pyramid of craven self interested shits also unfit for public office (aka the Labour Party.) "


You've answered your own question there, old chap.
 

the_boy_syrup

LE
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#3
Because they were a bunch of weak lilly livered twats who were more concerned about their own skins than anything going on around them.
Much the same as the fuckwit who stated that Tony told us we were going into Iraq and anyone who disagreed got shouted down.
Gordon Brown a madman why worry about that when you can claim £100 for a 5p Bic Biro.
"Gordon I think your mad"
"I've claimed for a light bulb and Sky Sports have you"
"No mein Fu.. excuse me PM I'll do it now well played sir"

No good coming out now in books stating he was mad as if that was a reasonable excuse.
Sorry your losing your jobs and houses but if you pay me £29.99 I'll tell you why it happened.
 
#5
They were scared of him.

Like the story (prob. a myth) about Kruschev denouncing the excesses of Stalin to the Supreme Soviet, when someone shouted the same question from the audience. K leaps up, raking the auditorium with machine-gun eyes, and shouts "Which one of you cnuts said that?" or similar. Deafening sound from a pin dropping, cue mass outbreak of brown trousers in the audience. K repeats his question a couple of times, rolling eyes like a loon. Still silence.

"Now you know why" says K, and sits down again.
 
#6
Stopping Gordon Brown would have been the normal moral and socially responsible action. Unfortunately morality and social reponsibility didn't enter into it.

UK PLC was a trainwreck; I suspect that a lot of Labour politicians were clinging on tightly, too paralysed, cowardly and indecisive to either jump or throw on the brakes. The ******* will probably be back in power in 4 years time.
 
#8
Probably for the same reasons that nobody stopped Hitler, or Stalin, or Saddam, or Gaddafi, or Clare Short ..............
 
#9
Fair enough. I'm a bit of a leftie myself being from a town on the Lancashire coal seam and growing up in Thatchers Britain.
I recently pointed out to several of my leftie mates that Thatcher and her like may indeed have been ruthless to heavy industry trades unions and have been prepared to have high unemployment.
But what she didn't do was start wars with questionable legalities and be responsible for the deaths of 1000's of people and that has to be taken into account.
Thatcher never tried to get me killed.
I'll not be voting Labour for the foreseeable, Mind you, I'll not be voting for that Etonian twat either.
 
#10
Why do you think car crash tv is so popular. Everybody wanted to watch this man disintegrate in public without stopping to think of the consequences. You know there are those times when you can see it coming but stop and think sod it i will watch this because someone else will stop it. Well that's the Liabour party for you.
 
#11
They were scared of him.

Like the story (prob. a myth) about Kruschev denouncing the excesses of Stalin to the Supreme Soviet, when someone shouted the same question from the audience. K leaps up, raking the auditorium with machine-gun eyes, and shouts "Which one of you cnuts said that?" or similar. Deafening sound from a pin dropping, cue mass outbreak of brown trousers in the audience. K repeats his question a couple of times, rolling eyes like a loon. Still silence.

"Now you know why" says K, and sits down again.
I've not seen that particular story before but Krushchev's "Secret Speech" of 1956 was a turning point in internal Soviet politics and is well covered here, or just google 'Krushchev secret speech' if you're interested. Did the story PF recounts happen? I guess something like it could have done: there are certainly reports of Politburo members suffering heart attacks and others committing suicide as a result of the speech.

Relevance to GB? The Stalin era was on a different scale to any excesses committed by western politicians (apart from Hitler) at any point in modern history - look to reports of Stalin ordering the policies that resulted in execution of more than 600000 soviet citizens in less than two years in the 1930s, and the significance (and effectiveness) of civil liberties and political checks and balances that we generally take for granted is clear. But I think there is some relevance to GB: what is plausibly common to both periods is the effect of personality (and particularly what's often called personality cult), together with the norms of human behaviour when dealing with such personalities. It comes down to the challenge of speaking truth unto (and about) power.

Anyway, PF - thanks for reminding me of the Soviet history point - it's well remembered for our own sakes, as well as for that of former soviet citizens.

Don
 
#12
Not being Mr Tony has a lot to do with it, the level of factional rancor was at higher levels than when Maggie was finally ousted. Brown was New Labor's John Major, only without the ability to actually win an election.
 
#13
MacDonald,,Scottish
Attlee,,English
Wilson,,English
Foot,,English
Callaghan,,English
Smith,,Scottish
Kinnock,,,Welsh..
Blair,,Scottish
Brown,,Scottish
Miliband,,English

All Leaders of the Labour party at one time or another, 4 Scottish, 1 Welsh, 5 English,,,Do we need to revisit the West Lothian Question?...
 
#14
Fair enough. I'm a bit of a leftie myself being from a town on the Lancashire coal seam and growing up in Thatchers Britain.
I recently pointed out to several of my leftie mates that Thatcher and her like may indeed have been ruthless to heavy industry trades unions and have been prepared to have high unemployment.
But what she didn't do was start wars with questionable legalities and be responsible for the deaths of 1000's of people and that has to be taken into account.
Thatcher never tried to get me killed.
I'll not be voting Labour for the foreseeable, Mind you, I'll not be voting for that Etonian twat either.
What is worth a mention from when Thatcher was running the show is her hardline policies in Northern Ireland that possibly resulted in more Soldiers being killed than might have happened if she had adopted a less agressive approach to dealing with some of the problems over there. Hardly a Soldiers saviour!
 
#15
What is worth a mention from when Thatcher was running the show is her hardline policies in Northern Ireland that possibly resulted in more Soldiers being killed than might have happened if she had adopted a less agressive approach to dealing with some of the problems over there.
And 'possibly' helped bring the festering situation to a head followed by resolution of a sort. You can always avoid conflict if you give in to the other side's demands.
 
#17
What is worth a mention from when Thatcher was running the show is her hardline policies in Northern Ireland that possibly resulted in more Soldiers being killed than might have happened if she had adopted a less agressive approach to dealing with some of the problems over there. Hardly a Soldiers saviour!
True. The Con dem Govmt aren't really the pal of Tommy Atkins neither. Stiil, as long as the banks are OK........
 
#18
And 'possibly' helped bring the festering situation to a head followed by resolution of a sort. You can always avoid conflict if you give in to the other side's demands.
I wasn't suggesting giving in to anybodies demands, particularly those of terrorist scum from either side of the fence in N.I. but politics is a craft where you can be blunt or clever about your strategy. Thatcher in my view was very blunt and that cost Soldiers lives.
 
#19
You need to carry out a little background research then on the Falklands and Maggies popularity before that kicked off, it got her a second term. The Argies had tried the same a few years before hand but had a couple of brit submarines sat off the coast and the Argies wound their necks in. Also re the unions they can blame a lot of heavy industry jobs lost due to their way of thinking and refusal to realise that the work force needed to modernise. Like now you can't compete with countries where the cost of living is next to nothing and wages are low compared to the UK but not in the host country, India/China being examples.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
#20
MacDonald,,Scottish
Attlee,,English
Wilson,,English
Foot,,English
Callaghan,,English
Smith,,Scottish
Kinnock,,,Welsh..
Blair,,Scottish
Brown,,Scottish
Miliband,,English

All Leaders of the Labour party at one time or another, 4 Scottish, 1 Welsh, 5 English,,,Do we need to revisit the West Lothian Question?...
Much of that's probably due to Labour's extermination across large swathes of England during the rule of the Blessed Margaret. Those in the Celtic fringe were generally more secure in their tenure and formed an established campaigning core over several Parliaments which was harder to do, though not impossible, as the Humber Pie Man and St Tony himself demonstrated, south and east of the borders.
 

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