WHY AT THIS TIME OF YEAR!

#1
After hearing the wives bongo drums, I dived into my JPA, Now to ALL that are in the JPA CIRCLE OF LOVE, Its not for a change that, But more so the hEArtless BUGGERS that it may or may not concern. Its the last pay packet before christmas, Yes youve guessed it they have finally took out the - back dated monies owing for fuel/lighting overseas. All £443.34p of it. Firstly i know that it has been posted every where about this , But in one go , last pay packet before christmas..?.......................... NOW if this has happened to me how is a young private or junior rank going to cope... THUMBS UP FOR THE 2 PENETH INPUT FOR THE RETENTION DRIVE [ NOT]!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL [ FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORED IT.....]
can any one justify this!!!!!!!!!
 
#3
sabotski said:
After hearing the wives bongo drums, I dived into my JPA, Now to ALL that are in the JPA CIRCLE OF LOVE, Its not for a change that, But more so the hEArtless BUGGERS that it may or may not concern. Its the last pay packet before christmas, Yes youve guessed it they have finally took out the - back dated monies owing for fuel/lighting overseas. All £443.34p of it. Firstly i know that it has been posted every where about this , But in one go , last pay packet before christmas..?.......................... NOW if this has happened to me how is a young private or junior rank going to cope... THUMBS UP FOR THE 2 PENETH INPUT FOR THE RETENTION DRIVE [ NOT]!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL [ FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORED IT.....]
can any one justify this!!!!!!!!!
I'm only surprised that you are surprised!
 
#4
Not as bad as yours mate, but I just got stung for 181 quid for F&L arears.

I paid some arears in June, I presumed that was the lot, oh how wrong I was.

I can't understand how they are justifying the MASSIVE increase in F&L, crude oil has not gone up that much :?
 
#5
I know that the day 2 day managment of the F&L scheme has recently transferred from DE (DHE) to Land. This is now being managed full time rather than some ones additional duties.

Before the transfer they found that there had been loads of errors by different DE (DHE) finance people round the country.
 
#6
Before I try and get involved in this one can you give me the following details:

1. What was the date of the Deductions?
2. Where you given any warning these were coming out this month?

Thanks for your time

Marty
 
#7
Mighty_Blighty said:
Not as bad as yours mate, but I just got stung for 181 quid for F&L arears.

I paid some arears in June, I presumed that was the lot, oh how wrong I was.

I can't understand how they are justifying the MASSIVE increase in F&L, crude oil has not gone up that much :?
ALthough oil is priced in dollars, the pound is strong so oil is only £2 a barrel more than it was a year ago, £45 instead of £43.
 
#8
What gets me about people who moan about deductions is that you knew about the deduction, regardless of when it was to be deducted, so therefore you should have compensated for it. This the beginning of self administration with JPA, if you can't look after your monies whilst serving, then what are you going to be like on civvy street. Stop moaning about it and get your misses working.
 
#10
Unfortunately HCSO office, certainly in Germany, no longer need to seek a signature for deductions for F&L.

They do provide notification however I have yet to see one arrive prior to the deduction.

There is surely a case to have the payment month moved to mid-year which would at least avoid large deductions prior to Xmas and the Xmas silly season of p**s ups.

Jockster
 
#11
sabotski said:
After hearing the wives bongo drums, I dived into my JPA, Now to ALL that are in the JPA CIRCLE OF LOVE, Its not for a change that, But more so the hEArtless BUGGERS that it may or may not concern. Its the last pay packet before christmas, Yes youve guessed it they have finally took out the - back dated monies owing for fuel/lighting overseas. All £443.34p of it. Firstly i know that it has been posted every where about this , But in one go , last pay packet before christmas..?.......................... NOW if this has happened to me how is a young private or junior rank going to cope... THUMBS UP FOR THE 2 PENETH INPUT FOR THE RETENTION DRIVE [ NOT]!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL [ FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORED IT.....]
can any one justify this!!!!!!!!!
So what did you do with the money that was not deducted for F&L when it should have been?

Have you paid out more money than you owe?

If you are paying F&L then you will be on LOA, hardly out of pocket are you?

How about fcuking off and managing you finances a little better you pointless whinging cnut. There are other people out there with proper pay issues.
 
#12
Fuel & Light readings are always done in October (Used to be that start of Winter Rates as well), so they get them deducted as soon as they can, unfortunately for you that seems to have been November for you.

Try unplugging some of your electricity and wearing jumpers !! :D
 
#13
sabotski said:
After hearing the wives bongo drums, I dived into my JPA, Now to ALL that are in the JPA CIRCLE OF LOVE, Its not for a change that, But more so the hEArtless BUGGERS that it may or may not concern. Its the last pay packet before christmas, Yes youve guessed it they have finally took out the - back dated monies owing for fuel/lighting overseas. All £443.34p of it. Firstly i know that it has been posted every where about this , But in one go , last pay packet before christmas..?.......................... NOW if this has happened to me how is a young private or junior rank going to cope... THUMBS UP FOR THE 2 PENETH INPUT FOR THE RETENTION DRIVE [ NOT]!!!! MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL [ FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORED IT.....]
can any one justify this!!!!!!!!!
i know where you are coming from i have got 700 quid to see me thru xmas with 3 kids and a wife not to mention my bills which come to just short of 500 jpa thought it would be funny to take nearly 800 off me i think jpa should be sacked as they can take as much off you as they want the army dont give a **** about familes now i have to explain to my son why santa didnt bring him his new bike thanks a bunch jpa
 
#14
partyr said:
What gets me about people who moan about deductions is that you knew about the deduction, regardless of when it was to be deducted, so therefore you should have compensated for it. This the beginning of self administration with JPA, if you can't look after your monies whilst serving, then what are you going to be like on civvy street. Stop moaning about it and get your misses working.
i think we are allowed to moan my wife just had to move herself and 3 kids under 5 from germany back to the uk whilst i was in afghanistan for 6 months then jpa came in and all of a sudden they can take as much as they want off you (what i was told by a clerk) they did this and took a further 800 quid off me whilst i was away without warning i recived the letter in afghan 2 months later saying i owed for hotels which the army has to pay for due to some stupid reme ssgt covering for our famo lost the recipts but lucky i got it back now they have done this again coming up to xmas jpa what a ******* waste of time its just to make the clerks life easier ime sorry but my clerk is putting in a hell of a lot of work trying to help us out and he even said its a waste of time why the hell should we have jpa thats why we have clerks to sort that shit out whilst we get sent away to get shot at and the sit behind desks doing nothing now more than before .. waste of time so wind you neck in partyr and some women cant work due to medical conditions and children.
 
#15
Mongoose said:
^ tell that to the 30 odd TA soldiers here that have had deductions last month..and no-one can tell them for it's for.
At least they have other work.
 
#16
Very true..

Had a regular WO2's salary suddenly go down £4k this month, just in time for Christmas..it was meant to go up as a result of a change of main trade for pay..good old JPA!
 
#17
[quote="cvrtgunner]its just to make the clerks life easier ime sorry but my clerk is putting in a hell of a lot of work trying to help us out and he even said its a waste of time why the hell should we have jpa thats why we have clerks to sort that s*** out whilst we get sent away to get shot at and the sit behind desks doing nothing now more than before .. waste of time so wind you neck in partyr and some women cant work due to medical conditions and children.[/quote]

Right so is it the clerk's fault or JPA?

As for whilst your away getting shot at and we're doing nothing give me a break. Even if we don't deploy - would need to grow another head for that to happen - we get to try and sort all the problems for the wives left behind. "JPA make my life easier" takes my award for quote of the year so far it's at least doubled my workload.

Nothing against you whingeing but your blaming everyone except yourself.

Jockster
 
#18
Jockster915 said:
[quote="cvrtgunner]its just to make the clerks life easier ime sorry but my clerk is putting in a hell of a lot of work trying to help us out and he even said its a waste of time why the hell should we have jpa thats why we have clerks to sort that s*** out whilst we get sent away to get shot at and the sit behind desks doing nothing now more than before .. waste of time so wind you neck in partyr and some women cant work due to medical conditions and children.
Right so is it the clerk's fault or JPA?

As for whilst your away getting shot at and we're doing nothing give me a break. Even if we don't deploy - would need to grow another head for that to happen - we get to try and sort all the problems for the wives left behind. "JPA make my life easier" takes my award for quote of the year so far it's at least doubled my workload.

Nothing against you whingeing but your blaming everyone except yourself.

Jockster[/quote]

Well said Jockster. The tankie bloke does have a point though, however I'd really like to know when it was that he was personally under direct fire, I mean IDF is one thing, it happens to us all, YES even the clerks, but to actually be SHOT at , jesus you'd think he joined up to go adventure training and to play sport all day!!!
 
#19
jockmod69 said:
Jockster915 said:
[quote="cvrtgunner]its just to make the clerks life easier ime sorry but my clerk is putting in a hell of a lot of work trying to help us out and he even said its a waste of time why the hell should we have jpa thats why we have clerks to sort that s*** out whilst we get sent away to get shot at and the sit behind desks doing nothing now more than before .. waste of time so wind you neck in partyr and some women cant work due to medical conditions and children.
Right so is it the clerk's fault or JPA?

As for whilst your away getting shot at and we're doing nothing give me a break. Even if we don't deploy - would need to grow another head for that to happen - we get to try and sort all the problems for the wives left behind. "JPA make my life easier" takes my award for quote of the year so far it's at least doubled my workload.

Nothing against you whingeing but your blaming everyone except yourself.

Jockster
Well said Jockster. The tankie bloke does have a point though, however I'd really like to know when it was that he was personally under direct fire, I mean IDF is one thing, it happens to us all, YES even the clerks, but to actually be SHOT at , jesus you'd think he joined up to go adventure training and to play sport all day!!![/quote]
try less than 9 weeks ago in afghanistan and no i wasnt in bastion only spent a total of 3 weeks their in 7 months rest was in fobs and as for the clerks i aint blaming them just want to know why my wages have gone tits up since jpa began i even got taxed on my tour tax rebate and how can they take so much off me when i have a family to support i thought they can only take so many days wages off us but i found out today i wasnt the only one one of my tprs only took home 89 quid how can they justify this!!!
 
#20
Just had a similar thing with British Gas - they failed to send me a final bill for £150 in Feb. Only difference is they have to compensate you for maladministration of your account - compensation was £250. Net effect £100 paid into the bank earlier this week!!!!
 

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