Whose idea was 2 year Groundy tours in NI?

Discussion in 'Aviation' started by Golf_one_one, Apr 20, 2005.

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  1. Has anyone had dealings with groundys who have come straight out of the box to NI? when they are posted to a regiment they are seriously lacking the skills and motivation required in any part of the field army.

    some cases of working 4 days on, 6 days off

    no WHT for the entire tour

    no field/exercise training

    working in "joint" MT/refuel pool with the RAF, learning severely bad and lazy habits from the civvies in blue

    and a class 2 groundy qualification gained by a "record of achievement" that isnt worth the paper its printed on

    its not the lads fault, but why are we deliberatly seeing off our AirTroopers?
    they come from Middle Wallop poorly trained as it is, why compound the problem?

    discuss
     
  2. By the boys in blue i take it your not refering to the police, lol, but a civvi contracted handling company.
    Do you believe a comprehensive program monitoring achievement with assessments, would this help to place competent groundies in the roles suitable to thier competence.
     
  3. No but staying out of the Jock nag might :D
     
  4. Hey,

    What's wrong with the Jock Nag...............? I have had some really good nights in there!!!!!!!!!!!! Is it still the old porta cabin?
     
  5. On the other side of the argument..why send anyone whose been working with AH for the last year or so?
     
  6. Because all the lads are threaders with AH, and the re-inventing the wheel thats going on in 9 Regt and now 3 Regt,

    If you think back to when you were an AirTrooper, if you were bored with regimental life and fancied a change, or were in line for your Lance Jack, you could ask to go to NI for 6 months, (or Belize) for a complete change, use it as a chance to save a little cash, get on the piss and catch up with other blokes in the corps.

    6 months of crew turned you into a groundy god, and gave you a crew to look after. career long mates were made.

    6 months of ops turned you into a CP god, all decisions were real time and had consequences.

    I'd go back to 6 month groundy and ops tours right away, a change is as good as a rest, and the regiments need all the variety they can get at the moment.

    Also, it would stop the stagnation and lack of skills occuring now in 5 Regiment,

    if anyone gave a f**k
     
  7. Golf_one_one,

    I agree, they should bring back 6 month tours.
    The job was good, socialising was better and mates for life.

    The jock nag what a bar, then off to the pheonix or to the snowdrops bar to end the night.

    Thats probably why i got divorced out in NI.....no no thats right my ex was doing the rounds.Gob bless her keeping the mens morale up.
     
  8. G11-someone has you missled. The guys aint workin with the crabs as joint mt/refuellers. The only time the majority of em may see any RAF would probably be when they get nicked for being mullered on a friday night. unless, of course they are being interviewed for reversing a bowser into an Islander.
     
  9. Getting Banged up is a fair one, any fighting with the crabs is a time honered tradition.

    is the dark side still going?
     
  10. Short Finals,

    The Nag is now called the 'Varsity Arms' ('New Jock Nag' to most!), and is now in the Old Browse and Bite building.



    I did a two year tour as a groundie straight out of the box many moons ago in 655 (when they were still at Ballykelly), and at the end of my tour left as a full B1. All it takes is self-motivation (something most groundies now lack, much too busy dripping about everything and anything), and good career management...............B*gger!!!
     
  11. [I did a two year tour as a groundie straight out of the box many moons ago in 655 (when they were still at Ballykelly), and at the end of my tour left as a full B1. All it takes is self-motivation (something most groundies now lack, much too busy dripping about everything and anything), and good career management...............B*gger!!![/quote]

    I couldn't agree more with old Murphy, as a groundie you need to look after your own career as those above you won't.
    As to the question with regards 6 mth tours I feel that this is a good thing as it helps you to become a more rounded sldr.