The forestry commission charge the MoD 12 times the going market rate for any trees felled/damaged on a training area that are maintained by the forestry commission (of which there are many examples). Rumour had it that farmers get paid about four times going rate for any sheep killed, is anyone in a position to back that up? Kenya - all those locals putting claims in about being raped by soldiers or losing limbs to unexploded ordance - I remember a newspaper report a couple of years ago that followed up some of these claimants and found several people who had their legs miraculously grow back and the children of these rape victims having no sign of "white" in their genetic make-up. The accusation was that the MoD wanted to settle, and fast, as it was easier or someone couldn't be bothered. I mention this because I find it disgusting that everyone seems capable of screwing the MoD for money (BAe anyone?) with the MoD seemingly having no comeback. This money *could* go towards those training or on ops (obviously if efficiency improved it'd probably just go back to the treasury... but you can always be an optimist) Does anyone have any other examples of any better information on these? Have I been informed wrongly?