Who Really Supports Our Troops

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by hitback, Mar 4, 2007.

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  1. This information was sent to me and the only way I could place a box around the information was to scan and paste onto the site.

    As you will see the government of the day has failed in supporting our armed forces again. The Labour Party has 352 members of the house, but only 38 Labour MP's have shown support. If you live in a Labour constituency then please email your MP and ask them to support our Troops.



    Alphabetical List of Constituencies and Members of Parliament

  2. Pretty poor really. It wasn't even a contentious subject.

    Some of them i can understand (Sinn Fein etc), but the major parties should be ashamed at themselves.

    It makes you wonder if some of these politicians are aware of the EDM or are just bone idle and not doing their job.
  3. Sinn Feins effort hardly surprises!!! :D

    542 members, only 145 turn out for the boys (+/-).

    Has anyone got similar stats for the "MP pay increase motion"?
  4. This is one of many replies I've had from PA's to the Minister emailed. This Ministers' Constituency is Exeter. IF ANYONE reading this thread lives in Exeter could email Mr Bradshaw MP, and ask him to support EDM 288.

    Dear Hitback,

    Thank you for your further e mail.

    If you would like Mr Bradshaw to raise the issue with colleagues he would be happy to do so. However, as explained on the Parliamentary website, Parliamentary rules mean he can only do so on behalf of someone who lives in his constituency.

    If you do and would like Mr Bradshaw to do so perhaps you could let me have your postal address.

    Lxxxx xxxxxxxx
  5. Thanks for that hitback. We now have 2053 who have signed the petition.
  6. I have put posts on the Baff forums asking them to support the new thread. I have also posted into the NAAFI thread! I hope I don't get bitten!
  7. SDLP 0%

    I'm glad Gerry Fitt is dead, he would be ****ing ashamed.
  8. Surely it's the Sun, everyone knows that?? :)
  9. elovabloke

    elovabloke LE Moderator

    The petition has got over the 2000 mark so many thanks to those who have signed and passed on the info to others.
  10. spike7451

    spike7451 RIP

    I'm not suprised that the vast majority who signed the EDM288 are Ulster politicians.
    I got a reply from my MLA,Lady Sylvia Hermon over the matter I raised with her over the treatment of Military personnel in NHS hospitals.Lady Hermon raised the issue with Derek Twigg,the Veterans Minister.
    At the bottom of the letter,she added a footnote'

    "PS,I am embarresed -but not suprised- by the tardiness of the response from the MoD!It's the worst dept of the government to have to deal with by a long way"

    I wonder if it is politics in general but the Ulster politician's seem to care more about our welfare than any other political party.

    (Sinn Fein scum excluded!)
  11. We now have 151 MPs who have signed the EDM and 2061 the petition. Any help that can be given to keep this thread on the front page would be most appreciated.
  13. And for those who have never read the poem its the same attitude today as it ever was. Just a different age.

    "Hurrah! For The Life Of A Soldier"
    By Rudyard Kipling, 1892
    I went into a public- 'ouse to get a pint o' beer,

    The publican 'e up an sez, "We serve no red-coats here."

    The girls behind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,

    I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:

    O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy go away";

    But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins," when the band begins to play-

    The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,

    O it's "Thank you Mr Atkins," when the band begins to play.

    I went into a theatre as sober as could be,

    They gave a drunk civilian roo, but 'adn't none for me;

    They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,

    But when it comes to fighting', Lord! They'll shove me in the stalls!

    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy wait outside";

    But it's "Special train for Atkins," when the trooper's on the tide-

    The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,

    O it's "Special train for Atkins," when the trooper's on the tide.

    Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep

    Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;

    An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit

    Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.

    Then it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy 'ow's yer soul?"

    But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll-

    The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,

    O it's " Thin red line of 'eroes," when the drums begin to roll.

    We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,

    But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;

    An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,

    Why single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;

    While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy fall be'ind,"

    But it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind-

    There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,

    O it's "Please to walk in front, sir," when there's trouble in the wind.

    You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:

    We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.

    Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face

    The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.

    For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck 'im out, the brute!"

    But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;

    An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;

    An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool - you bet that Tommy sees!


    It was the Duke of Wellington who coined the popular nickname Thomas (or Tommy) Atkins, for the ordinary soldier. In 1843, whilst Commander-in-Chief, he was asked to come up with a 'typical' soldier's name. Thinking back to his first campaign in the Low Countries in the 1790s he remembered a badly wounded, but stoical, soldier he had encountered - Thomas Atkins.

    The Widow's Uniform - after Prince Albert's death, Queen Victoria was known as the Widow at Windsor and soldiers were known as the Widow's Sons who wore the Widow's uniform
  14. We now need to go for the 3000 barrier. Does anyone have any ideas how we can raise the profile for this campaign?
  15. BUMP