Who do you think you are kidding Mr Hitler....

Just over the limit.

Such a shame - I'd have enjoyed revisiting those weekends spent chasing part-time nurses around bed-filled hangars...
 
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One (of the many!) things that pisses me off ( not sure why as I'm nearly too old at 51 anyway to join) is the use of 'Dad's Army'. I know its journos but its a BS phrase.

Almost as full of BS as this- Julian Brazier, Minister for Reserves rejected claims that lifting the upper age limit from 43 to 52 for former regular soldiers wanting to join the reserves was a sign of desperation to meet recruitment targets. “It is one more example of intelligent modification (!!) of the process,” Mr Brazier said." What a wonderful way of saying 'It is all farked up'.

I find it hard to believe that only 20 new members joined the reserves though- that's a hell of a lot of wonga wasted ( depending on who's mate got the advertising contracts) for very little return.
 
I find it hard to believe that only 20 new members joined the reserves though- that's a hell of a lot of wonga wasted ( depending on who's mate got the advertising contracts) for very little return.
Perhaps the wording should be "... managed to join the Reserves ..." given Crapita's mishandling of applicants?
 
Only 20 fooking new people joined the Army Reserve last year? Jesus wept. I am gob-smacked. Somebody's got a lot of 'splainin' to do. :-D :-D

AH, see that the MoD is so desperate for bodies they're even opening enlistment to former soldiers 50 and up. Hmm. well tell you what, I'll be along presently and I'll catch you up.
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Not quite... about 20 percent of the UK AR died, quit, or retired in the last year, they managed to enlist enough to cover that loss, plus 20 more individuals, something over 4000 new AR enlistments.
 
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Julian Brazier (Minister for Reserves) will have the ARRSE Pals Battalion up and running in no time!
 
An ARSSE pals battalion would need extra transport to carry the beer and defibrillators.
 
Upper limit 52? Pah! Full Time Reserve Service (RSG - Reserve Support Group) recruits up to the age of 60, with service available up to (and very rarely beyond) age 65.
I was told recently by someone in the know that Army HQ at Andover has over 100 FTRS, many over the age of 60 - mostly Officers and Warrant Officers.
Dads Army? Granddads Army more like.
 
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Not quite... about 20 percent of the UK AR died, quit, or retired in the last year, they managed to enlist enough to cover that loss, plus 20 more individuals, something over 4000 new AR enlistments.

And of those 4000 new recruits 20% will die, retire or quit in the next year.

Presumably we need to be successfully enlisting and training, to trained soldier level, somewhere in the region of 6000+ per yr, per yr for the next 5 yrs to cover natural losses and to increase force levels to the required numbers.

Recruiting a net additional 20 pax per year is nothing short of a disaster. I seem to recall similar spin this time last year.
 
Can he eat a bacon sandwich without looking like a cnut?

You obviously haven't met me. I look like a **** (unshaven) without doing a thing.
 
And of those 4000 new recruits 20% will die, retire or quit in the next year.

Presumably we need to be successfully enlisting and training, to trained soldier level, somewhere in the region of 6000+ per yr, per yr for the next 5 yrs to cover natural losses and to increase force levels to the required numbers.

Recruiting a net additional 20 pax per year is nothing short of a disaster. I seem to recall similar spin this time last year.

I seem to remember you quoting me in much the same manner last year.

I happen to think you've spent way to much, however, as the kinks get worked out of your new enlistment clusterfuck, you may well see those numbers once they actually figure out what they are doing.
 

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I actually don't see an issue with this at all.

I know of a civvy helicopter mechanic who is in his early 50's. He is in the RAF Reserves as a Flight Sgt and is highly regarded as he has 30+ years working on all sorts of aircraft. He has worked in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, the US etc and brings an amazing knowledge in operating in different and difficult climates and conditions. He was shipped to Iraq to train other RAF mechanics in operating in dusty environments. To train a young sprog to his level of expertise would take ..well..30+ years!

The RAMC (R) have NHS specialists into their 60's and again, have done so for many years.

There are many roles, specialist or support, that do not require super human levels of fitness, so why not use folk who bring experience and a bit of maturity to the position?
 
I actually don't see an issue with this at all.

I know of a civvy helicopter mechanic who is in his early 50's. He is in the RAF Reserves as a Flight Sgt and is highly regarded as he has 30+ years working on all sorts of aircraft. He has worked in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, the US etc and brings an amazing knowledge in operating in different and difficult climates and conditions. He was shipped to Iraq to train other RAF mechanics in operating in dusty environments. To train a young sprog to his level of expertise would take ..well..30+ years!

The RAMC (R) have NHS specialists into their 60's and again, have done so for many years.

There are many roles, specialist or support, that do not require super human levels of fitness, so why not use folk who bring experience and a bit of maturity to the position?


True , experience is one thing youth does not have.
 

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I actually don't see an issue with this at all.

I know of a civvy helicopter mechanic who is in his early 50's. He is in the RAF Reserves as a Flight Sgt and is highly regarded as he has 30+ years working on all sorts of aircraft. He has worked in Africa, the Middle East, Asia, the US etc and brings an amazing knowledge in operating in different and difficult climates and conditions. He was shipped to Iraq to train other RAF mechanics in operating in dusty environments. To train a young sprog to his level of expertise would take ..well..30+ years!

The RAMC (R) have NHS specialists into their 60's and again, have done so for many years.

There are many roles, specialist or support, that do not require super human levels of fitness, so why not use folk who bring experience and a bit of maturity to the position?

I would agree if it was carefully considered policy and the conversation ran: "Minister, we've got a highly experienced talent pool available, a bit on the old side admittedly but it would be worth spending some time to find a way of re-integrating them into our Armed Forces.".

Sadly, it's clearly another panic move and the conversation was closer to: "Minister, we are seriously f@cked here.".
 

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