Over recent weeks I have come across a number of post which have referred to serving Queen and Country, Dying for queen and country, putting yourself in harms way for queen and country, and many similar quotes. My question is this. In todays modern army, is the desire to serve ones country really a motive for joining the forces? I served 16 years, and the only time I actually heard queen or country mentioned was in West Belfast, and that was in an attempt to be provocative. I and most of the people I served with joined up because we wanted to soldier, and once we became part of our units we were prepared to put ourselves in harms way, but not for that lot in Buck house or Parliament, our loyalty was to each other and no one else. Yes we had the rituals to perform in the mess, and on certain parades but any mention of Royalty or Politicians was merely lip service.