Who can be called up?

#1
Been reading the callup thread and it got me to thinking, unusual I know. Anyway as I see it under this new(ish) act from 96 the government can call up the TA and regular reserve (those that were in the regs but left) whenever they feel like it and send them on ops?

But what happens if they knock on my door (I'm regular reserve) and tell me I have to go and I say **** of send the glorious leader in my stead, he started it after all :) ?
 
#2
First para - got it in one, I think.

Second para - I suppose this would ultimately result in a trip to Colchester rather than Iraq or wherever, or at least some sort of court appearance.

Not quite sure how long your liability is, but under the RFA there are something like three or four grounds for applying for call-up to be revoked. One is if you run a business or your company thinks they can't spare you, another is if you are currently in the middle of training or vocational education (so I don't think students doing history degrees get out of it, for example) and another is if you are a single parent or in sole charge of looking after someone who can't look after themselves.

If you can't tick one of those boxes then off you go, as far as I can see.
 
#3
Don’t get me wrong I support every solder out there doing their bit. I would even go so far as to say I support the RAF, grudgingly ;)

But as a private citizen I do not support the Governments position and would be more than a little miffed if that twat Blair tied to tell me to go to Iraq to further it. If my countries under threat I would be first in line but Iraq is not a threat to the safety of my country. Well it wasn’t before we invaded it anyway. :roll:

My understanding was when I left in 96 that as I had done more than 12 years colour service I could only be called up if the red hordes were advancing on London. I did my bit, 13 years of it and took part in the first shindig, however when I left I did not agree to be available for call up to support tonys every whim, I didn’t even vote for the cnut. :evil:

I’m not expecting a call up at all but I was just curious about my position.

As an aside how many Regular reserve have been called up, does anyone know?
 
#4
OS,

Firstly, after looking at the call up rates for Reg Res on Telic 1 they decided that the TA will be the reserve of choice, so unless you are the only trained ferrett handler in the reserves and they really needed that skill, they'd ping a TA bod instead.

From the act

(7) A notice under this section may be served on a person by delivering it to him or by leaving it at, or sending it by post to, his last known address; and any call-out or variation notice delivered to that address by registered post or recorded delivery shall be deemed to have been served on him.

(8 ) No steps may be taken against a person in respect of failure to comply with a call-out notice under this section unless the notice or, as the case may be, any variation notice was received by him or is deemed to have been served on him by virtue of subsection (7).
So if you don't get your call up papers by recorded post then you could, in theory, claim that you never had the notice served and it would be up to the authorities to prove that you did :wink:

I don't think that anyone has been prosecuted successfully for not turning up for mobilisation recently. But if you were, i think it would be a magistrates court that you'd go to.

Right, off to order my Bently, this law thing's a doddle. 8)
 
#5
Dont think as Regular Reserve you've got that much to worry about unless you only got out last month, but if in the unlikely event that you do get the fat brown envelope through your door just get your employer to go against it. They seem to revoke all call ups where the employer whinges whether the whinge is kosha or not.
Or has anyone experienced anything different?
 
#6
Thanks guys. As I said I’m not expecting to be called up. I left 8 years ago so am as rusty as an old nail. Anyway bar them dragging me kicking and screaming from my house in Holland they can go swing for it. Besides I also now have an Aussie passport so could just give them theirs back and tell them to feck off :)

I am just annoyed at the situation they have created. I did my bit and then some and had enough and decided to leave. They then changed the law so that if they want to they can call me out for something that is not a threat to my country. I just find that down right ******* annoying. :evil:
 
#8
MMs_Brother said:
Full or part time students wont be called up, they can volunteer though.
They can and have been called up - however being a full time student is reason enough (according the the adjudicating officer's handbook) to grant an exemption.

msr
 
#9
msr said:
They can and have been called up - however being a full time student is reason enough (according the the adjudicating officer's handbook) to grant an exemption.
Thats why he said "wont" :wink:
 
#10
MM,

There is a difference between receiving your mobilisation papers and actually being deployed on ops, most notably the trousering of approx £400 tax free for a one day trip to Chilwell :)

msr
 
#12
create a disability , that will get you off and £500 richer , anybody needs a new eye? or perhaps a new leg? :lol:
 
#13
I was told when I joined the otc that under the education act of 1996 or something, that its illegal for a person in full time education to be called up. Bugger :/
 

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#14
Volenteer if you really want to go. Even if you're in full time education it can and has been done.
 
#15
Under the RFA 1996 you can be called up but your firm must , on your return re employ you in " a similar role etc, etc" Be aware that there are a number of company cop out's. One of our lads had his revokation accepted whilst at Chilwell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still went though. Most TA units will have a Employer Support Officer to help. Don't forget on re-engaging you have to tell your boss post 1 Apr04. 8O or they do it for you.
 
#16
yeah my boss took me back with open arms, bastard :( .Only thing which kept me sane with was the thought of dragging him through the courts to get a job back that i didnt want anyway :lol:
 
#17
Mongoose said:
I was told when I joined the otc that under the education act of 1996 or something, that its illegal for a person in full time education to be called up. Bugger :/
Achtung, puppies...

Some students in London ( thats Laaaahndaahn ) have been told that they had no choice and have been called up. I think they are, as we speak, in Basra. Clue to unit: Infantry, based in London and they dont jump out of perfectly serviceable aircraft.
 
#18
Bravo_Bravo said:
Some students in London ( thats Laaaahndaahn ) have been told that they had no choice and have been called up. I think they are, as we speak, in Basra. Clue to unit: Infantry, based in London and they dont jump out of perfectly serviceable aircraft.

ULOTC?

msr
 
#19
No. OTCs are TA Group B. This is the lowest readiness section of the Army. There is no specific role for any UOTC in a war situation so any call up would most likely be contemporaneous with general mobilisation of the rest of the population.

I suspect that these gentlemen were students already in a TA infantry unit.
 

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