Whither FRES? US GCV 'likely to weigh 85 tons'

Discussion in 'Tanks, planes & ships' started by Cold_Collation, Nov 16, 2012.

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  1. Cold_Collation

    Cold_Collation LE Book Reviewer

  2. You mean FRES2050?

    Sounds like a job for a slightly improved A400M, and as it happens BAE happen to have plenty of experience in this sort of thing.

    [They could have used the C17 as a starting point, but everyone knows that it works ticketyboo and where's the profit in that??]
  3. Sympathetic_Reaction

    Sympathetic_Reaction LE Book Reviewer

    Why is anyone surprised....there is only one way to survive an IED attack and that is by sticking a large amount of armour on your kit....shape/angles/materials etc are all details in the end, the majority of the defense is to stick a large mass in the way.

    If you want your vehicle to have the comms/active defensive systems/fire power/survivability/mobility all rolled into one then it's going to be a big beast. There is only so much an engineer can do to bend the laws of physics.

  4. or make it remote control...
  5. Won't Terry just build bigger IEDs? Not like he's short of HE after the Ivans left all their's behind after quitting in 88. No shortage of 155mm shells left over I've heard.
  6. Wasn' there an adage...

    Warhead vs Armour, warhead always wins.
  7. Didn't the boche go down this route?

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  8. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    is this another resurgent third reich idea like stealth planes and big missiles.

    are they going to start working on the maus next?

    previous poster beat me to it :)
  9. Grumblegrunt

    Grumblegrunt LE Book Reviewer

    how is the power ranger program going?
  10. So did the Brits... google 'turtle'.

    The yanks made similar...
  11. Tortoise...

    Tortoise was a lightweight compared to Maus.

    Why are the Yanks developing the ideal APC for Iraq and Afghanistan just as we all plan to bravely run away from the brave new world we've created in the Middle East?
  12. Turtle Tortoise... they're not that different :D

    Maus never left the garage though did it? But a quick check 188 tons... I doubt it could drive out of the tank park without crushing every road and bringing brdidges down.

    It was ever thus, design your kit to fight the last war... pref one you won.
  13. Gonna new new bridges and transporters for those behemoths. Even a C-5 would be maxed lifting one of those.
  14. We're gonna need a bigger bridge!