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WHITE Season on BBC2.

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Beginning Friday 7th March, BBC is commencing the "White Season" - a series of programs aiming to explore the question; Is Britain's White Working Class being ignored?

To coincide, the following story can be found on the BBC webby's front page: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7281107.stm

Loss of trust

On the way up to the pit monument, past markers of key moments in the area's history, I meet Tommy Butler.

Easington Colliery's lift cage
Monument: Easington Colliery's lift cage
"Aye without a doubt, there's no ways about it, I'm working class. To think what I've done for 34 years down the pit, man and boy.

"When I left school in the 60s you could say, I'll go to the steelworks, or I'll go to the pit. I went to the pit because all my family were there.

"There was always something for you, but look around the corner now, there's nothing, that's why you have the kids on the streets drinking."

According to a Newsnight poll for the BBC's special White season, a majority of white working class Britons feel nobody speaks for people like them. In most areas covered by the poll working class people were more negative about Britain than people from other backgrounds.

The question is why.

HAVE YOUR SAY

The white working class, which is basically most people, have resolved themselves to being ignored on pretty much all political decisions

L Evans, Birmingham
Send us your comments

Tommy Butler says it comes down to a sense of betrayal shared by communities like his - a betrayal that has not eased with the arrival of New Labour.

"I've got no time at all for politicians, I don't trust them. I was staunch Labour all my life but I cannot vote for them now - there is no difference between Conservative and Labour, they're all the same. We had Prime Minister Tony Blair with his constituency house [in nearby Trimdon] and we were totally let down."

A lot of people in Easington share Tommy's views - they talk of abandonment and the loss of a proud culture built on hard work; a culture where families stood side-by-side against adversity.
Well done that bloke, in my opinion. Being the beeb, however, can we trust that the 'debate' will not most likely culminate in the conclusion that multiculturalism is great, and that anyone who disagrees is a racist?

The homepage for the WHITE season is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/white/

It's acting up for me now though, which is odd. I was on it a minute ago. It's got clips of each of the programs we can look forward to.

Apologies if this isn't in the right forum.
 
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Bought time!

I'm sick of hearing about black and asian tv/music/groups etc etc
 
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They seem to have gone for the easiest target in the "White Working Class", which we were all promised some years ago was actually a thing of the past. We're a classless society now, aren't we? As you say, the buildup points towards a conclusion already well set in the minds of the Social Engineers, which you will agree with, or else.
 
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TO DISAGREE WITH A MULTYICULTURAL BRITIAN IS NOT RACIST

I am not a racist and I don'rt care about colour or religion. It is good to see how the indigenous population are viewing recent immigrant invasion, causing ubsettlement and cultural changes in nearly every British community.

One is still ( I hope) entitled to an opinion without fear of do-gooders, and active cultures, accusing one of racism.

But what of this matter of asylum seekers and unemployable migrants?

Personally, I see rather a lot of immigrants (who, it appears, are handed cars, phones and accopmmodation from somewhere) in the town centre, or hanging round on street corners, contributing nothing to their hosts or to our economy.

My opinion? > not to be stated here.
 
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Whiskybreath said:
They seem to have gone for the easiest target in the "White Working Class", which we were all promised some years ago was actually a thing of the past. We're a classless society now, aren't we? As you say, the buildup points towards a conclusion already well set in the minds of the Social Engineers, which you will agree with, or else.
I couldn't agree more with regards to 'the target'.

They go for a poor, unemployed, working class communiity. Poorly educated on the whole and believing of the bigotted garbage that the Sun pumps out. How do I know the community - I worked within it for a time.
 
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stripeyretired said:
TO DISAGREE WITH A MULTYICULTURAL BRITIAN IS NOT RACIST
...
One is still ( I hope) entitled to an opinion without fear of do-gooders, and active cultures, accusing one of racism.
Optimist, eh? :)
 
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Sven said:
...a poor, unemployed, working class communiity. Poorly educated on the whole and believing of the bigotted garbage that the Sun pumps out. How do I know the community - I worked within it for a time.
Language of despair, there, and possibly patronising or even insulting to that "community"?

True, though. Go for it.

(Edit: I thought that all those TV soap operas were about the 'working class'. On the few occasions that I've peeked through the door when Mrs WB is dosing herself with East End opium, they look prosperous enough; certainly more so than most of the "communities" I've worked in in other countries. I don't believe there is such a thing as what used to be called a 'working class' now, just an underclass of the workshy, ignorant, criminal and stupid, plus those who have genuine reasons for being down there (who should be in our society's safety net), and that now comprises the grouping of those people you note, Sven.)
 
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The preamble to the programme, on the News at 1, said that they chose a community which was about the most white in Britain.

I could have suggested many more that have the same ethnic mix (or lack of), but no doubt it would have had a totally different outcome to the programme.
 
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Wouldn't like to live anywhere near Easington now. They'll be infested with Social Studies doctoral students in no time, spreading nasty foreign diseases.
 
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One of the other programmes to be shown in this short season of documentaries comes from Barking, Essex. Hardly a poor, unemployed, working class community. it just happens to be the area where the BNP are the second largest party on the local council. These are excerpts from one of the papers:-

1) Tomorrow night’s Last Orders features members of struggling Wibsey Working Men’s Club in Bradford, West Yorks.
They say they are being driven into the arms of the extremist BNP by a Labour Party that no longer cares about them. They say the heart has been ripped from their communities as mass immigration has seen them lose their traditions and their jobs. And they warn of a bloody race war.

2)In another show next week, The Poles Are Coming, locals in Peterborough, Cambs, say services have been stretched to breaking point. One primary school in the city has just one child who speaks English as a first language at home.

3)And next Friday’s All White In Barking focuses on the Essex town where more than 10,000 residents recently voted for the BNP, now the second-largest party in the area.
So, it's not just about the poor unemployed white working class, the programme was filmed at different spots in the UK.
 
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Whiskybreath said:
They seem to have gone for the easiest target in the "White Working Class", which we were all promised some years ago was actually a thing of the past. We're a classless society now, aren't we? As you say, the buildup points towards a conclusion already well set in the minds of the Social Engineers, which you will agree with, or else.
I recently had the dubious fortune to read a dense market research report about focus groups from a year or so ago, consisting of white British "ABs," that slightly outdated socioeconomic grouping that nominally consists of upper managerial and top executive workers but in all practicality consist of upper-incomes and "landed folks." These people also represent about 26% of adult Britain.

I can assure you that these people, talking amongst themselves, had no such illusions about a 'classless Britain,' and were quite sure of where they themselves fit on that class ladder. For instance, one of my favorite quotes:

“I was nearly a professional cricketer when I was younger. At that time it was very much a case of which public school did you go to, does your face fit, but now I see some of the younger lads coming through, from state schools, it’s all opened up – because of all the information that’s out there, the press – they think, we have to be politically correct now, open it up.”
-Young family [NB: 25-44, kids under 9] (male)

If Social Engineering results in setting working-class people and immigrants at each other's throats, then critical analysis may lead us to wonder...who benefits?
 
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Zanu Labour stopped representing their traditional voters decades ago. Just taken a long time for people to realise.

One of the things that happened in commie circles as their prophet turned out to be wrong on everything was "the proletariat" got shifted to being the third world and the west as a whole became "the capitalists". Pilger is a good example of that type.

It ties in with other stuff as well but either way the end result is that the white working class are Zanu Labour's kulaks.

Picture a load of invading Daleks saying "Diversify! Diversify!" instead of "Exterminate! Exterminate!" and you'll have a pretty accurate picture of the reality of what's been going on unreported for years and years and years.

BBC/Zanu Labour trying to head the BNP off at the pass is my guess.
 
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This will no doubt be another BBC attempt to denigrate and patronise the white working-class. Maybe they should have focused on the white middle-class as well because I've no doubt they're just as worried about the direction this country is heading in.
 
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there is no working class anymore.
if you use the standard of living as a guide.
just a huge middle class(have you a car,take a foreign holiday or do you punch in on a timeclock,get a paypoke or is it put in the bank?
no uk has-huge middle class,small upper and large underclass-benefits,never worked,never likely to.
now try singapore-large working class-all live in council houses they have to buy(where do you think thatcher got her ideas-she kissed the ground here every time she visited).smaller middle and smaller ruling
phillipines-massive underclass.
massive working class.
very small middle class.
miniscule ruling class.
if you took the standard of living of a benefits chav in UK,and put that into a phillipinos life-they would be lower middle class.
uK seems to be slowly self destructing .
every time I come back on holiday-I want to leave after a pint,fish supper and upon my first glance at a hippopig in a micro mini in local alehouses.
back to mrs redmenace and her asian ways.
arhh.
 
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Sven said:
The preamble to the programme, on the News at 1, said that they chose a community which was about the most white in Britain.

I could have suggested many more that have the same ethnic mix (or lack of), but no doubt it would have had a totally different outcome to the programme.
The program hasn't even aired yet and you are justifying how it is already wrong.
In a post prior to that you are sugesting the immigration problem is down to faulty perception on the part of the uneducated, ignorant indiginous working class. You really ought to go and have a chat with yourself about reality Sven
 
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