Which way do you swing?

Which is best in your view for the future of the British people

  • Total Independence for all Regions

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Independent but with Queen as head of state & shared armed forces

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Independent with membership of Commonwealth only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Independent with shared Armed Forces only

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Devolution to Local Assemblies/Parliament (no say in English one)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Leave it as it is now

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Retain the United Kingdom as it has been for 300 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    0
#1
I want to see what ARRSE members think of the whole Union issue, so I'm going to put it to a vote.
 

elovabloke

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#3
You missed one - Get rid of the Welsh & Scottish thingys & return to what it was.

Edited to say: Sorry is that what you mean by the last one?
 
#4
wingboy said:
Ahhhhh poo. can i unvote? (is there such a word?) i wanted the last one the 300 years. cliked the wrong button
Eeerm, no idea.
 
#6
elovabloke said:
You missed one - Get rid of the Welsh & Scottish thingys & return to what it was.
It's at the bottom of the list (but not mine) :thumright:
 
#9
Given that we punch well above our weight at the moment on the world scene I can't see any benefit to any of our constituants role in the world should we become independant. It could only serve to reduce our role and ability to determin our future (in as much any nation can do this) Theres got to be more that unites us than separates us as far as I can see. In fact having lived/worked in or been related to members of all parts I can't see the massive cultural difference that needs to push apart. Other than moaning about the English whats actually different about the average Scot's life and world view than the average Englishman's?
 
#10
We should be independent - independent of Europe and the USA. We're the world's fourth largest economy FFS! Why are letting foreign powers dictate our foreign policy?

The Bill of Rights 1689 required the Monarch to swear "I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God"

It wasn't explicitly in HM coronation oath but I'm sure HM is still bound by it. Perhaps Charles will stand up to parliament on behalf of the people when it's his turn?



edit: spelling
 
#11
MrNurse said:
Given that we punch well above our weight at the moment on the world scene I can't see any benefit to any of our constituants role in the world should we become independant. It could only serve to reduce our role and ability to determin our future (in as much any nation can do this) Theres got to be more that unites us than separates us as far as I can see. In fact having lived/worked in or been related to members of all parts I can't see the massive cultural difference that needs to push apart. Other than moaning about the English whats actually different about the average Scot's life and world view than the average Englishman's?
Having lived in Scotland, England and Wales, I would say that we are united more than we are divided. All our plumbers are now Polish, there's a Starbucks on every corner, a Kentucky Fried Gerbil on every high street and the chavs/neds are breeding at an alarming rate.

Just as long as we remember to keep disliking the French, we'll remain united in the important matters!
 
#12
Civvy_Shot said:
MrNurse said:
Given that we punch well above our weight at the moment on the world scene I can't see any benefit to any of our constituants role in the world should we become independant. It could only serve to reduce our role and ability to determin our future (in as much any nation can do this) Theres got to be more that unites us than separates us as far as I can see. In fact having lived/worked in or been related to members of all parts I can't see the massive cultural difference that needs to push apart. Other than moaning about the English whats actually different about the average Scot's life and world view than the average Englishman's?
Having lived in Scotland, England and Wales, I would say that we are united more than we are divided. All our plumbers are now Polish, there's a Starbucks on every corner, a Kentucky Fried Gerbil on every high street and the chavs/neds are breeding at an alarming rate.

Just as long as we remember to keep disliking the French, we'll remain united in the important matters!
If devolution continues at this rate, and the EU keeps building, we'll be closer to the French than the Scots. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!
 
#13
I think one can forget going back to the pre-devolution situation, the genie is out of the bottle and that's it.

The real problem is England has to decide how to live with this situation. Regional assemblies were suggested some time ago and discarded. Perhaps and English parliament and a UK parliament. Perhaps the English after thinking about it will want to just be rid of all their Celtic subsidy junkies and go it alone themselves.

As I say it is an English problem and England must find it's own solution and stop bleating about every one and thing else.

Peter
 
#14
I think one can forget going back to the pre-devolution situation, the genie is out of the bottle and that's it.

The real problem is England has to decide how to live with this situation. Regional assemblies were suggested some time ago and discarded. Perhaps and English parliament and a UK parliament. Perhaps the English after thinking about it will want to just be rid of all their Celtic subsidy junkies and go it alone themselves.

As I say it is an English problem and England must find it's own solution and stop bleating about every one and thing else.

Peter
 
#15
Victorian_Major said:
fishfingers said:
Leave it as it is, old soldiers went to war to defend the Union. Surely they would be turning in their graves at such an issue.
As it is is half the problem - a bad deal for the English.
I think you'll find that myth has been comprehensively debunked on the other fifteen dozen Union threads. I would have thought better of you too VM...
 
#16
Nowt wrong with a unified UK, but those new reports on the frogs wantin in put ideas in me head:

1 way gate into france

Build a load of super prisons over there and offload all our scum there,

Hmm, france has the right idea with a nuclear based power industry, lets build a load more there and join our national grids.

As long as we remember not to trust the buggers.
 
#18
I have no problem with the Scottish Parliament. Cannot understand the Welsh Assembly. Why people would vote for more expensive layers of government I cannot understand.
My problem is with the 'West Lothian Question'.
No wonder the 'Prime Minister' (Brown) has ordered his mouthpiece (Bliar) to say nice things about Scotland staying in the Union, because if the Liarbour MPs in Scotland are kicked out (I can but dream) then we say goodbye to this appalling gang of spivs running GB at present. C'mon you Jocks - kick 'em out!
PS. I'm Welsh
 
#19
I have no problem with the Scottish Parliament. Cannot understand the Welsh Assembly. Why people would vote for more expensive layers of government I cannot understand.
My problem is with the 'West Lothian Question'.
No wonder the 'Prime Minister' (Brown) has ordered his mouthpiece (Bliar) to say nice things about Scotland staying in the Union, because if the Liarbour MPs in Scotland are kicked out (I can but dream) then we say goodbye to this appalling gang of spivs running GB at present. C'mon you Jocks - kick 'em out!
PS. I'm Welsh
 
#20
lsquared said:
I have no problem with the Scottish Parliament. Cannot understand the Welsh Assembly. Why people would vote for more expensive layers of government I cannot understand.
My problem is with the 'West Lothian Question'.
No wonder the 'Prime Minister' (Brown) has ordered his mouthpiece (Bliar) to say nice things about Scotland staying in the Union, because if the Liarbour MPs in Scotland are kicked out (I can but dream) then we say goodbye to this appalling gang of spivs running GB at present. C'mon you Jocks - kick 'em out!
PS. I'm Welsh
A welsh Tory!!

Do You feel lonely L

:biggrin:
 

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