Which Running Shoes

#1
I haven't ran for probably 8 or 9 years, fell running/ultra distance was my bag, gave it up because I had lots of knee problems. I have had no pain from the knees for 2 years now and would like to be running again. Problem is I am so out of touch with which running shoe to buy. Have stayed fit with biking and walking but miss the running.

So help please on which shoe I should be buying,

Needs good cushioning,
Will be mainly trail running, round here its mainly shale/slate tracks with no serious hills.
Dont need studs ie Walshes but needs 'off road' tread
half hour to an hour a day 5 days a week
Not for racing, those days are over


Need to buy over the internet so advice for suppliers will be good as well.

Thanks in advance for any help
 
#2
best advice is to look at Runners World. They have a wealth of Forums covering that area.

You might want to consider flat running trainers. This means there is no heel. this might help your old injury from recurring. They will take time to get used to and your calfs will explode, but well worth it in the end. It replicates running in bare feet, which supposadly is your natural gait.

Good luck,
 
#3
I'd go with Asics or Saucony. Was your knee trouble attributable to your gait? If so you may need some orthotics. Your best bet would be to go to a proper running shop who will assess your gait.
 
#4
Gait, over pronation, under pronation, way too many factors to take into account for an internet diaganosis. Go to sweatshop, very good shop and they know what they are talking about.
 
#6
I'd ignore the requirement to buy from the net; if you want a pair of running trainers with a special requirement (like it not aggravating an old injury) then I recommend going to a proper running store for a session of gait analysis. These bods should be the experts in the field and will be able to tell you the pros/cons of each model. Remember that sometimes, just sometimes, the manufacturers put things on the shoe that whilst looking speedy do **** all good for your feet!

If you have an old knee injury, take it easy on concrete paths as that magnifies the footstrike. Keep to those shale paths and you'll be fine!
 
#9
If you need them for a mix of track and road have a look at the Mizuno Wave Ascend, I just wore them for the Lakeland 50 which was multi terrain and they worked outstanding, no blisters at all.
Inov8 are top drawer for mainly fell off road etc but don't have much support when you hit the tarmac, if you do opt for Inov8 have a look at the arrow system on the back of the shoe, the more arrows the more support. I've got a pair of the 295's which I wear for X Country but try to stay off the road in them as it's like wearing Army road slappers!
 
#10
If your intention is to buy "over the internet" then keep the following in mind -

# In the time that you've been away from 'running' the equipment ( clothing & shoes especially) has become very specialised indeed.
# Get yourself to a 'proper' running shop and get the assistants to give you the heads up on what's about in your price range.
# Take a pair of your everyday shoes with you. Good advice comes on the rudimentary understanding on whether you pronate or supranate in your walking / running gait. That's quite important to know. Most prefessional shops will have means of measuring your stride length and gait pattern.
# Knee injuries such as you've experienced could have been as much an issue with mechanical imbalance rather than just a sheer training load. Invest in a session with a Chiropracter, who can look at your flexibility ( or lack of it) and upper body range of movement. Listen to him /her and the recommendations on any rehab exercises you should be concentrating on.
# get on the internet for the shoes you want.

Good luck to you.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
#11
If your intention is to buy "over the internet" then keep the following in mind -

# In the time that you've been away from 'running' the equipment ( clothing & shoes especially) has become very specialised indeed.
# Get yourself to a 'proper' running shop and get the assistants to give you the heads up on what's about in your price range.
# Take a pair of your everyday shoes with you. Good advice comes on the rudimentary understanding on whether you pronate or supranate in your walking / running gait. That's quite important to know. Most prefessional shops will have means of measuring your stride length and gait pattern.
# Knee injuries such as you've experienced could have been as much an issue with mechanical imbalance rather than just a sheer training load. Invest in a session with a Chiropracter, who can look at your flexibility ( or lack of it) and upper body range of movement. Listen to him /her and the recommendations on any rehab exercises you should be concentrating on.
# get on the internet for the shoes you want.
Good luck to you.
And if everyone does the two points in bold, don't expect there to be specialised running shops around who will provide free advice for ever. Why should they pay for a shop, trained staff and teadmill etc just to be used as a free advice service for internet shopping?
 
#12
And if everyone does the two points in bold, don't expect there to be specialised running shops around who will provide free advice for ever. Why should they pay for a shop, trained staff and teadmill etc just to be used as a free advice service for internet shopping?
That's fair comment. We could get into a 'moral' argument on the amount of money paid to athletes to advertise the gear. This investment is recovered by Joe Public paying an excessive amount for the sports items. I really don't blame folks searching the internet for a deal in circumstances which have prevailed for a considerable number of years.
 
#14
That's fair comment. We could get into a 'moral' argument on the amount of money paid to athletes to advertise the gear. This investment is recovered by Joe Public paying an excessive amount for the sports items. I really don't blame folks searching the internet for a deal in circumstances which have prevailed for a considerable number of years.
I always use the advice of a running shop. Buy the first pair there, then the second and third from the internet. Be careful of the internet though, there is a lot of fake tat out there.
 

The_Duke

LE
Moderator
#15
That's fair comment. We could get into a 'moral' argument on the amount of money paid to athletes to advertise the gear. This investment is recovered by Joe Public paying an excessive amount for the sports items. I really don't blame folks searching the internet for a deal in circumstances which have prevailed for a considerable number of years.
I don't blame them either, but as posted below, beware of fakes.

I also wouldn't blame them if proper sports shops started charging £20 for a gait analysis and fitting session, refundable off your first purchase of running shoes from them. I would certainly stop the time and money wasted on conducting fittings for people who never have any intention of buying from them.
 
#16
I find that most running shops will give you 10% off on production of an ID anyhow, my local one does plus it always saves me on postage when I order some new clobber online and the sizes are all over the shop and I have to send it back!
Sometimes though it makes total sense to buy online.....I just ordered an OMM 15L pack and saved £20.
 
#17
Thank you very much for all the information, I will be buying via the net as I don't live in the UK and the shoes are in the region of twice the price for the same shoe in France. So I think it will be Pete Bland sports as I bought most of my running kit from him in the past.

I totally agree with your advice re gait, over pronation, under pronation, however it wont be happening untill I get chance to get back to the UK then like you say if the shop does the analysis they will get a sale, I totally agree with that sentiment.

But for most of my running days I was fairly neutral in the over pronation, under pronation and screwed my knees up on the downhills of the mountains with a rucksack on me back. Would be interesting to know though and will be getting tested next year I guess now.

Thanks again and you never know if it all goes tits up again with me knees there will be a bargain to be had in a slightly used pair of decent trail shoes.
 
#18
And if everyone does the two points in bold, don't expect there to be specialised running shops around who will provide free advice for ever. Why should they pay for a shop, trained staff and teadmill etc just to be used as a free advice service for internet shopping?
My shop charges £15 but will subtract that if you buy from them.
 
#19
Consider also how you run. Have a look at 'Pose running' on YouTube, and you will see many arguments for having a review on your technique.

The nearest you can mimic the way you run barefooted, the less strain you will experience on your knees. Many people who run well, with low impact technique wear the flattest, lowest heeled shoe they can get their hands on. Inov8 are popular amongst the 'Pose fraternity'.
 
#20
Not specifically a pose runner but I do naturally run on my forefoot and wear very minimal shoes all the time with no knee issues. If you are not used to doing it, then it can be quite a long process to learn how to while your calves and achilles adapt to it. However, if you haven't been running for a couple of years and will be starting easy anyway than worth looking at as it may save your knees a bit of a battering.
Inov8 are very popular, although they are also getting expensive. Trail specific shoes in general have a lower heel anyway, the cross over shoes tend to be more like road shoes but with a slightly more aggressive sole.
 

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