Where does the term “choggie” come from?

#1
Being a bit of a nosey sod, I’m always curious to know the meanings behind a lot of old Army words. I understand “dhobi” and “char” are old Indian Army words, that are still used today, and I remember the Falkland Islanders being called “Bennys” and then “Stills”. But after visiting my local choggie tailors here in sunny Iraqistan, I realised I didn’t have a clue about the origins of “choggie”, and neither did anyone else.

Is it slang? Worse, is it a derogatory word, like the “n” word? Any suggestions?

:?

TCS
 
#4
cypherman said:
http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/Char_Wallahs
Brilliant. Tells you everything you wanted to know except the answer to the question. :roll:

Most probably naval slang from "ChinkyChonky Chinaman" to Choggie isn't too far a move.

Thats where I was told it came from anyway.

I am sure the mighty brainpower of arrse will enlighten me.
 
#7
smudge67 said:
Choggie is a naval term. Choggie to a naval homo simply meant "chinaman"

to add: But clearly beaten by Stumpy!
Makes a change for me, I'm one of those ones who ploughs through a thread waiting to make my point only to find it's already been made...twice!

Wonder if our ipod wearing surrender monkeys still use the term? All the main searches on Google bring up army references/links.
 
#9
I used to know a bloke called Chogy King (initial P). One of the duller lads (probably put up to it) asked him why. Quick as a flash, his oppo replied "'Cos he's fcukin' nosh!"
 
#13
mcreature said:
Ref FI,-Prior to "benny" and "Stills",they were known as--Hobbits.
They were called Bennies because of the woolen hats, they looked like Benny in crossroads, they were ordered to stop calling them Bennies (pc reasons) so the lads started calling them SB,s when asked about this, they said because they're still Bennies :lol:
 
#15
If I remember correctly, some of the older regiments had thier own specific Choggie, in the 'Fighting Forty Twa',(1 BW RHR), in the early 70's, the shops in NI were run by a family who's top guy was called Goolum Nabi. This went a a long way back in regimental history to the days of the raj.

This could be a load of bolloxs, but it's what I was told as a young whippersnapper.

CTC
 
#16
mcreature said:
Ref FI,-Prior to "benny" and "Stills",they were known as--Hobbits.
On an etypologiocal point the term "hobbit" probably post dates "andys", "stills" and "bennies". I was there for several months in 1982-83. Benny's was common in 1982 The andy and Stills jokes were around by Chrtistmas 1982, but I never heard anyone describe a kelper as a "hobbits". That figures because in 1982 Cross Roads was more familiar than the works of JR Tolkein.
 
#17
Pteranadon said:
mcreature said:
Ref FI,-Prior to "benny" and "Stills",they were known as--Hobbits.
On an etypologiocal point the term "hobbit" probably post dates "andys", "stills" and "bennies". I was there for several months in 1982-83. Benny's was common in 1982 The andy and Stills jokes were around by Chrtistmas 1982, but I never heard anyone describe a kelper as a "hobbits". That figures because in 1982 Cross Roads was more familiar than the works of JR Tolkein.
Which just goes to show how well read Royal Marines must be---as "Hobbit" was one of the terms used by members of NP8901,the RM unit which was based there prior to '82 :wink:
 
#18
chokinthechicken said:
If I remember correctly, some of the older regiments had thier own specific Choggie, in the 'Fighting Forty Twa',(1 BW RHR), in the early 70's, the shops in NI were run by a family who's top guy was called Goolum Nabi. This went a a long way back in regimental history to the days of the raj.

This could be a load of bolloxs, but it's what I was told as a young whippersnapper.

CTC
How old are ye Chokinthechicken...??

Way back when I was a sprog - early(ish) 80s - we (1BW) called the Choggies "The Ghulhams"....seem to remember in W Belfast circa 83 our toe picking,arse scratching, burger making whallahs were saving thier pounds, shiillings and pence to go to Afghan to fight the Ruskies...how time have changed eh ?

On later tours they were still about despite being targeted by PIRA/INLA/IRSP.....

IIRC the Ghulam Nhabi was a guy who worked for 1BW before WWII - He even had his obituary published in the Regimental Magazine a few years ago.

Will try and dig out and dust off the old mags.

Wait out etc.
 
#19
I was on ship once and saw the dhobi wallah going spacka after my mate said to him '' Thanks Mr Chogie'' This was after he recieved his dhobi. The old fool was going bannanas.
Was informed by an old and bold matelot afterwards that Calling a Chink a Chogi is like calling him a Shithouse.
 
#20
they were still trying to ban calling the kelpers bennies in 91 to no avail
years later was explaining how strange the islanders are when a friend piped up "actually I come from the falklands"
quick attempt to back peddle.
"no worry s its true they are a bunch of inbred weirdos :twisted: "
 

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