Where do the cuts stop?

Discussion in 'Strategic Defence & Spending Review (SDSR)' started by Outstanding, Jul 25, 2011.

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  1. If we lose 7,000 soldiers now and then another 5,000 later, we are talking about losing capability, not just having regimental reorganisation.

    What capabilities can we afford to lose:

    Para
    Ceremonial
    SF
    Loggie
    Engr
    Armour
    Air Corps
    Admin Functions (AGC, MP, ETS, ALS)
     
  2. I have a feeling the cuts will stop when the TA are 100% responsible for Ground Forces. The RAF have been disbanded and absorbed into the AAC TA, and HMS Belfast is the Flagship of the Royal Navy. Meanwhile we will have increased overseas aid by a hideous amount, given more money to failing EU economies and it will culminate in either another World War or an attack on the UK.

    Just to think I was in such a happy mood this morning.
     
  3. Is this a rhetorical question?

    Do you mean lose as in completely, or reduce?
     
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    Lose militarily and replace / reduce where appropriate with outsourced solutions or reservists.
     
  5. OK. Well you could have "civvy" ceremonial troops couldn't you? Probably take 2-3 weeks to get them up to standard in drill. Kit them out with deactivated weapons.

    Admin functions is one area the TA could probably do well but not sure how practical this would be if it is a function you require all the time.

    Which brings us to what could be the most at-risk area... the stuff you need to fight, but don't need very often (whether that's because you are no longer fighting very often or the fighting you are most often involved in doesn't require the stuff) - armour has got to be vulnerable to being changed to "mostly TA", likewise artillery.
     
  6. OldSnowy

    OldSnowy LE Moderator Book Reviewer

    I think that a more logical start point would be - what do we want to do, and from there work out how many Service personnel, and with what kit, we need to do it. For instance, if we intend never again to get involved with a major war involving a 'decent' Nation State enemy, then that's all the CR2 out the window. Likewise, if we are always going to be in a position of air supremecy, that's all AD gone.
     
  7. When theres one fat **** with a dingy and a model airplane left, you know the cuts have finished.
     
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    Sounds perfect!
     
  9. Traditionally the cuts stop when the first bomb drops on London.
     
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  10. How long before the Household Division becomes the Holographic Division?


    No, that's not a GEMS suggestion.
     
  11. Auld-Yin

    Auld-Yin LE Reviewer Book Reviewer Reviews Editor

    The cuts will only stop when MPs see a threat to themselves. Otherwise they will keep cutting without regard for any situation, current or potential.
     
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  12. Cuts will stop when overstretch ceases.
     
  13. What makes you think it will stop there?
     
  14. This time round I suspect it will be when the Germans are marching up Whitehall.
     
  15. As long as they aren't Norweigian!