Where do the cuts stop?

#1
If we lose 7,000 soldiers now and then another 5,000 later, we are talking about losing capability, not just having regimental reorganisation.

What capabilities can we afford to lose:

Para
Ceremonial
SF
Loggie
Engr
Armour
Air Corps
Admin Functions (AGC, MP, ETS, ALS)
 
#2
I have a feeling the cuts will stop when the TA are 100% responsible for Ground Forces. The RAF have been disbanded and absorbed into the AAC TA, and HMS Belfast is the Flagship of the Royal Navy. Meanwhile we will have increased overseas aid by a hideous amount, given more money to failing EU economies and it will culminate in either another World War or an attack on the UK.

Just to think I was in such a happy mood this morning.
 
#5
OK. Well you could have "civvy" ceremonial troops couldn't you? Probably take 2-3 weeks to get them up to standard in drill. Kit them out with deactivated weapons.

Admin functions is one area the TA could probably do well but not sure how practical this would be if it is a function you require all the time.

Which brings us to what could be the most at-risk area... the stuff you need to fight, but don't need very often (whether that's because you are no longer fighting very often or the fighting you are most often involved in doesn't require the stuff) - armour has got to be vulnerable to being changed to "mostly TA", likewise artillery.
 

OldSnowy

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#6
If we lose 7,000 soldiers now and then another 5,000 later, we are talking about losing capability, not just having regimental reorganisation.

What capabilities can we afford to lose:

Para
Ceremonial
SF
Loggie
Engr
Armour
Air Corps
Admin Functions (AGC, MP, ETS, ALS)
I think that a more logical start point would be - what do we want to do, and from there work out how many Service personnel, and with what kit, we need to do it. For instance, if we intend never again to get involved with a major war involving a 'decent' Nation State enemy, then that's all the CR2 out the window. Likewise, if we are always going to be in a position of air supremecy, that's all AD gone.
 
#10
How long before the Household Division becomes the Holographic Division?


No, that's not a GEMS suggestion.
 

Auld-Yin

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#11
The cuts will only stop when MPs see a threat to themselves. Otherwise they will keep cutting without regard for any situation, current or potential.
 
#16
Logistics is the easy cut to make; outside of Afganistan, a lot is already civilianised, so when they come back, why do we need a Green (purple) supply and logistics empire?

Getting rid of the Movers may please some ? :)
 
#18
Except that then nothing will move!
Civilianise it; add a requirement to go into uniform if the shit hits the fan; hey presto, 24 MC Regt (civilian), use that to staff the various permanent dets around the country. Add a TA Regt, let's call it 29 MC Regt (TAVR), use that to deploy with the Bde's; you've even got a skeleton to form it out of the current 24/29 plus the Swindon TA Sqn.
 
#19
Civilianise it; add a requirement to go into uniform if the shit hits the fan; hey presto, 24 MC Regt (civilian), use that to staff the various permanent dets around the country. Add a TA Regt, let's call it 29 MC Regt (TAVR), use that to deploy with the Bde's; you've even got a skeleton to form it out of the current 24/29 plus the Swindon TA Sqn.
Or better still give the whole function to the RAF!
 

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