Where do I start my research??

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  1. I'm trying to trace the military service of my grandfather, on my mother's side. All we know is that he served (and survived) WW1, he was born in Leeds (about 19 years old in 1914), and he served in a Yorkshire regiment. I need some advice, as most of the sites I go on charge for the information, and I could spend a lot of money, chasing details for the wrong person.

    All help is appreciated. There is so little I know about him.
     
  2. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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  3. You really need his service number and regiment.

    Without this you will have a problem finding anything useful.

    There were quite a few "Yorkshire Regiments". He could have joined:-

    The Yorkshire Regiment
    The Duke of Wellington’s Regiment
    The West Yorkshire Regiment
    The Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry
    The York and Lancaster Regiment
    The East Yorkshire Regiment

    This is far from exhaustive as there are various Yorkshire cavalry and artillery units.

    What is his surname? If it’s very unusual you might be able to find him, but not if it’s a common name.

    Do you have any photographs that would help to narrow the list of suspects down?
     
  4. I think I have narrowed him down to one of 3 people on the 1901 census. The problem is the medal cards show quite a few William Marsh. I think it was the KOYLI he was in (my Mum remembers the nickname). I wonder what happened to his medals ??

    It is fascinating trying though !! History unfolded !!. I know my son is very interested, now he is in the army, as that would make 4 generations of our family who have served.
     
  5. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Your looking at two different things then?
    Him on the census in 1901 & his military service.
    If you have his date & place of birth have you tried a BMD search for him?
     
  6. Most of these records are in the Public Records Office at Kew. They do not deal with enquiries but will recommend to you a person that will undertake to look any thing up for at the princely sum of just £1.00 per minute, and you can guess just how they can run that bill up.
     
  7. I appreciate this the Internet and you don't want to give away too much information, but if you haven't managed to identify him in the 1901 census, when he would be 5 yrs old and with his family, I don't think you have enough information to go to the MOD or to Kew.

    If you have 3 candidates, you can easily kill off two of them with a little research - and it will be cheaper and quicker to do that on the Internet, rather than visit the FRC and Kew.

    Litotes
     
  8. I assume that you mean these three?

    Births Dec 1893 Marsh William Leeds 9b 397
    Births Jun 1894 Marsh William Fern Leeds 9b 551
    Births Dec 1894 Marsh William Leeds 9b 539

    who are the only candidates from Leeds from 1894 to 1897.

    Was he born in Leeds? Definitely?

    Litotes
     
  9. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Name: William Marsh
    Age: 8
    Estimated birth year: abt 1893
    Relation: Son
    Father's name: Amos
    Mother's name: Esther
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

    Civil parish: Leeds
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
    Town: Leeds
    Address: 12 Edmunds Street
    County/Island: Yorkshire
    Country: England

    Name: William Marsh
    Age: 7
    Estimated birth year: abt 1894
    Relation: Son
    Father's name: William
    Mother's name: Mary
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
    Civil parish: Leeds
    Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Peter
    Town: Leeds
    Address: 62 Stainburn Court (?) The image is difficult to read
    County/Island: Yorkshire
    Country: England


    Either of these yours?
     
  10. Oldbaldy,

    My data came from FreeBMD, but yours is more comprehensive!

    Pray, tell me your source?

    Litotes
     
  11. @ oldbaldy

    Thanks - he is this fella :

    Name: William Marsh
    Age: 8
    Estimated birth year: abt 1893
    Relation: Son
    Father's name: Amos
    Mother's name: Esther
    Gender: Male
    Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England

    Civil parish: Leeds
    Ecclesiastical parish: St Edmund
    Town: Leeds
    Address: 12 Edmunds Street
    County/Island: Yorkshire
    Country: England

    I got this off the 1901 census records, but without a DOB, or army number, I'm not sure where to go next. Many thanks for allthe help everyone.
     
  12. Looked on Genesreunited (you owe me 9 credits :wink: )

    William Marsh, born 9b 397 1893, is the only person of that name born in Leeds from April 1892 to the first quarter of 1894 (the 1901 census was taken on 31 March 1901, so to have been 8 years old he must have been born from April 1892-March 1893). Litotes has already given you the dates for later candidates. I don't understand the 9b numbers; perhaps someone can enlighten me.

    If he was Amos and Esther's son, then someone put some details down wrong on the census return. In my family research, I have seen details, such as place of birth, change from one census to another, for someone who is plainly the same man (living in the same house, married to someone with the same name, with the same kids).
     
  13. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    Ancestry. I subscribe, so I have access to all census.
    You want to know anything PM me :D

    Like yourself I also use freeBMD.
     
  14. oldbaldy

    oldbaldy LE Moderator Good Egg (charities)
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    9d is the volume number of the GRO the number immediately after is the page number.
    Helps when you go to the local records office to look something up. :D