When you are warned for Ops question

#1
When you have been warned for ops, what stage do they tell you where you are going and what you will be doing ?

Or do you just turn up at Bastion and they decide where they need you ?
 
#3
Im a little pished so if ive not understood what your getting at I do appologise ..

I understand once i've done Chilwell I have so x months pre deployment training and x month in theatre, I was told which tour im on and who I will be with but that was it, As it will be my first tour im just curious when I will be told the details .. here(in the UK) or on arrival ..
 
#4
What post did you volunteer for?
 
#5
Not a silly question, but it depends on a number of things - the type of unit you are deploying with, if the unit has one role or a few varied ones, date of deployment as well as how things are changing out in theatre as you undertake your MST.

You should find out during your MST, although if my (Regular) unit is anything to go by it'll be fairly late on (deploy October, the final-ish ORBAT was released start of August).

Regards,

T
 
#8
When you have been warned for ops, what stage do they tell you where you are going and what you will be doing ?

Or do you just turn up at Bastion and they decide where they need you ?
You should know which Gunner Regt you will be apart of already so if not ask your CoC. You CoC should also know what role you will be lined up for in the FST (I guess as TA you will probably be a Dvr/Sig - are you L2 OPA Qual'd?), however this may well change during PDT, depending on how you (and others) perform and what couses and quals you have or gain during this time.

As to where you are going in country you will probably not know until well into PDT (particularly as an FST could be attached to a number of different units) and indeed it can change any time up to deployment and indeed you could move around even once you have arrived/been there for a while.

I would advise you to relax about such matters and concentrate on your personal skills and integrating with your team, as locations and detailed roles can and do change - don't worry about things over which you have no or little control.

Oh and ignore anything MSR says unless it's about IT.
 
#9
Supposedly all change with GCM, units are to be plotted for deployment 5 years ahead, 10% of the deployed ORBAT are to be scaled for TA. The numbers taken from volunteers from the TA are to be scaled at 2:1 (to allow for drop outs, injuries, etc). When folks volunteer there will be a period of training within unit for one year, then embedded within the regular unit for 6-months pre-deployment training the a 6-month tour. So you would be looking at 12months out from your job to do a tour.
 
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then embedded within the regular unit for 6-months pre-deployment training the a 6-month tour. So you would be looking at 12months out from your job to do a tour.
That won't add up as when you come back from your tour you will need to take your POTL and accumulated annual leave within your mobilised service period. Trust me, we went through this with 2 Rifles when someone did the maths wrong and mobilised us for 4 months Pre-deployment and which was still too early for a full tour. The battalion ended up having to ask us all to sign extensions of enlistments which only a few of us did. The rest went home for demob about a month before they would have.
 
#12
I was told the area I am going to back in Feb, but won't know the exact PB until I get out there in a couple of weeks. I'm a level 2 for one of the FSTs.
 
#13
We join our Battalion in November, deploy some time in March/ April and come back to the UK in September. Not quite the '6 months' we were told about a couple of years back when I re-enlisted but; I'd rather be well trained and spend more time away from my family than come home early for the wrong reasons due to lack of key skills/ integration with the unit.

As far as how we will be fitted in 'in theatre', as I understand it, we won't know until well into the pre-deployment training. We have an idea where we are going at the moment but that's about it and subject to change (of course). (Infantry)
 

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#14
We join our Battalion in November, deploy some time in March/ April and come back to the UK in September. Not quite the '6 months' we were told about a couple of years back when I re-enlisted but; I'd rather be well trained and spend more time away from my family than come home early for the wrong reasons due to lack of key skills/ integration with the unit.

As far as how we will be fitted in 'in theatre', as I understand it, we won't know until well into the pre-deployment training. We have an idea where we are going at the moment but that's about it and subject to change (of course). (Infantry)
A lot of that is because of the sensible application of a quality filter, and the tendancy for the Statement of Requirements from the receiving unit being more full of holes than a very holey thing until the very last minute.

In short, names on paper are of very little value at the moment. They will need to see who is really up to scratch and then start putting names to jobs once they have had the chance to see who can be used where.

No point having Pte Bloggs down for No1 rifleman if he is a 55 year old rejoiner still desperately dreaming of his glory days in the Fulda gap as he wheezes his way round a 14 minute PFT.
 
#16
We join our Battalion in November, deploy some time in March/ April and come back to the UK in September. Not quite the '6 months' we were told about a couple of years back when I re-enlisted but; I'd rather be well trained and spend more time away from my family than come home early for the wrong reasons due to lack of key skills/ integration with the unit.

As far as how we will be fitted in 'in theatre', as I understand it, we won't know until well into the pre-deployment training. We have an idea where we are going at the moment but that's about it and subject to change (of course). (Infantry)
Fuck me! last time I deployed I got the phone call and touched down in KAF 3 weeks later.
 
#17
Fuck me! last time I deployed I got the phone call and touched down in KAF 3 weeks later.
Yeah well, I think you'll find that there's a qualititive difference between the deployment of some Int type and a combat Infantryman. The latter will require a lot more intense, demanding and specific beat up training than a couple of weeks at RTMC and a few days RSOI, while your own experience would point to the fact that you don't.
 
#18
I would suggest that it wasn't that I didn't need it - I just didn't get it, (and to be honest as an IA didn't really expect). Bearing in mind that the minimum requirement for going out on the ground is OPTAG and RSOI. Not whingeing as I had an awesome time and had some relevent experience, so getting shot at wasn't a problem, I'm just glad that that level of integration and PDT is occuring given my own experience. I further suggest that your "qualitative" assessment of the requirements of preparing G/J2 for theatre demonstrates an impressive level of ignorance given how opinionated you seem to be.
 
#19
I further suggest that your "qualitative" assessment of the requirements of preparing G/J2 for theatre demonstrates an impressive level of ignorance given how opinionated you seem to be.
Yup, definitely opinionated and often ignorant, but in this case my opinions (and ignorance?) are a reflection of those above. After all, the powers that be thought that it was acceptable to send you out to theatre with three weeks or less worth of pre-deployment training. DINF won't let anyone less than a Grade 1 Infantryman (about a years worth of training in TA money) deploy and then they'll mobilise to sync with the start of the receiving battalion's PDT.

Forgive my ignorance, but that to me would suggest a qualititive difference.

had some relevent experience, so getting shot at wasn't a problem
Ha ha! Yeah, whatever mate!
 
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