WHats this! THEY WANT GREEN ON THE UNION FLAG

#1
Just catching up on the weeks news after my latest course and I open the papers and find bloody great green stripes or dragons on the Union Jack, whats more a fable about HMG giving serious consideration to the changes!!!!!!
Have we gone stark PC billy bonkers or what?
Are our welsh brethren so aggrieved by history?
Sorry Taffy but you were in bed with England at the time hence only they, us and the bog hoppers got in on it.
And I like the flag, thank you very much, its ours I'm proud of it, so keep your bloody hands off if you dont mind HMFG
 

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#3
Link please?
 
#4
Why the fuck would us Welsh want our Dragon on the UJ?? We have our own flag.

To put you straight, the UJ is just as much a Welsh flag as it is an English flag....the Georges Cross is English. The UJ belongs to us all.
 
#6
The issue of whether to use the term "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of some debate. One view is that "Union Jack" should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship), but it is not universally accepted that the "Jack" of "Union Jack" is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".
 
#8
Ord_Sgt said:
The issue of whether to use the term "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of some debate. One view is that "Union Jack" should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship), but it is not universally accepted that the "Jack" of "Union Jack" is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".
Ah, thank you. :D
 
#9
SparkySteve said:
Ord_Sgt said:
The issue of whether to use the term "Union Flag" or "Union Jack" is a matter of some debate. One view is that "Union Jack" should only be used for the flag when it is flown as a jack (a small flag flown at the bow of a ship), but it is not universally accepted that the "Jack" of "Union Jack" is a reference to such a jack flag and is only an educated guess. The Flag Institute, the vexillological organisation for the United Kingdom, stated that the term Union Flag is a "relatively recent idea". It also noted that "From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that "the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag".
Ah, thank you. :D

OK to put this one in Jockaneese,
Jack, boaty thing, Navy boys, rum bum and mooth organ,
Flag Army types carried into battle of old, now proudly displayed over all our camps garrisons et al,
Ive got that so far so what do Crab Air call it??
 
#12
smudge67 said:
Why the * would us Welsh want our Dragon on the UJ?? We have our own flag.

To put you straight, the UJ is just as much a Welsh flag as it is an English flag....the Georges Cross is English. The UJ belongs to us all.
I don't think this is the argument, smudge.

The article I read had some welsh man saying that the shouldn't fly the union flag full stop as is didn't represent Wales apparently.

There was a similar argument a couple of years ago when some council actually had the Welsh flag flying above the Union flag.

I think that some welsh don't really understand the whole union flag thing, it is the flag of the UK as a whole, if they wish to fly the dragon that’s fine by me but they must also be prepared to fly the UK flag which they are part of.

It would be the same as the Cornish insisting the black cross be included, they fly their own black cross but there is always a Union flag with it.
 
#13
Jockster starts digging......

How's about a sheep? That would also keep the bloody ozzies happy as well.

Jockster stops digging
 
#14
Should we ban the flying of any flag in England except the UF and the St. George?
 
#15
waitout said:
smudge67 said:
Why the * would us Welsh want our Dragon on the UJ?? We have our own flag.

To put you straight, the UJ is just as much a Welsh flag as it is an English flag....the Georges Cross is English. The UJ belongs to us all.
I don't think this is the argument, smudge.

The article I read had some welsh man saying that the shouldn't fly the union flag full stop as is didn't represent Wales apparently.

There was a similar argument a couple of years ago when some council actually had the Welsh flag flying above the Union flag.

I think that some welsh don't really understand the whole union flag thing, it is the flag of the UK as a whole, if they wish to fly the dragon that’s fine by me but they must also be prepared to fly the UK flag which they are part of.

It would be the same as the Cornish insisting the black cross be included, they fly their own black cross but there is always a Union flag with it.
Oh I see. Fly either, I'm happy either way.
 
#16
EX_REME said:
Should we ban the flying of any flag in England except the UF and the St. George?
I don't see why we should, anyone that is proud of their country should be able to display it openly.

We should be able to fly the george cross without been accused of being racist etc.

But people should respect the Nations Flag has priority over the pricipalities, you should want to fly the Nations flag with as much pride as your own flag.
 
#17
waitout said:
smudge67 said:
Why the * would us Welsh want our Dragon on the UJ?? We have our own flag.

To put you straight, the UJ is just as much a Welsh flag as it is an English flag....the Georges Cross is English. The UJ belongs to us all.
I don't think this is the argument, smudge.

The article I read had some welsh man saying that the shouldn't fly the union flag full stop as is didn't represent Wales apparently.

There was a similar argument a couple of years ago when some council actually had the Welsh flag flying above the Union flag.

I think that some welsh don't really understand the whole union flag thing, it is the flag of the UK as a whole, if they wish to fly the dragon that’s fine by me but they must also be prepared to fly the UK flag which they are part of.

It would be the same as the Cornish insisting the black cross be included, they fly their own black cross but there is always a Union flag with it.
I get what you mean here but you end up with the situation that has arisen up in my homeland where to fly the union flag at all, never mind in tandem, is seen as treachery to the saltire (which is part of the union flag). the only exceptions are bases, barracks, palaces and emergency service stations ( but only on public holidays, deaths etc )
No I think all this flag altering and changes being considered is much deeper, there is definitely an agenda here, the lets batter fukc out of Britain campaigners are winning here, there trying to fukc with the very fabric and glue of society and we seem to be sitting back and letting it happen
 
#18
Agreed.

Bearing in mind that England celebrates St Pat's Day more than St George's Day.

Seems to me that UK is hellbent on destroying it's cultural heritage.

Jockster
 
#19
This is another one of those things that some idiots with nothing useful to do in their lives come up with. The vast majority of English, Northern Irish, Scots and Welsh understand that they have their own country'd flag and the Union Jack as a national flag. Incidentally what the Navy call the jack the Army tend to call their colur which is why most regiments have aregimental and a Queen's colour.
These will be the same people who are now discussing changing the later verses of the National Anthem. FFS most of the population don't even know that there's more than one verse and the ones who do aren't interested in changing it.
 
#20
For those of you who do not already know the Welsh nation are already represented on the Union Flag.

Yes they are, their Red Welsh Griffin(!) is in the centre of the flag bang in the centre of the St Georges Cross!

Tee hee.....
 

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