Whats the claim route these days for tinnitus?

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#2
If that doesnt work then RBL are set up to assist this!
 
#3
If I was you, I'd make that you're screaming "what" at every occassion and complaining that the noise is keeping you up at night. The RBL are great with cases - I've got it in both ears, but the army couldn't give a rats ass. Also if you do have any loss of hearing (it was in 2002 when I had problems after leaving) they only count hearing loss over 50 decibels. So your doctor can say your partially deaf, but you need to lose (Correct me if I'm wrong) 20% of your hearing ABOVE the 50db mark to qualify for anything.
 
#5
kin hell. I've had this for years. Never thought about a claim. My lot are always shouting at me at home lol.
 

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#6
I was waiting to finally fail my works medical hearing test. Seeing I'm no longer working it may be worth chasing up now!
 
#7
If I was you, I'd make that you're screaming "what" at every occassion and complaining that the noise is keeping you up at night. The RBL are great with cases - I've got it in both ears, but the army couldn't give a rats ass. Also if you do have any loss of hearing (it was in 2002 when I had problems after leaving) they only count hearing loss over 50 decibels. So your doctor can say your partially deaf, but you need to lose (Correct me if I'm wrong) 20% of your hearing ABOVE the 50db mark to qualify for anything.
I received a one-off payment after I left the service with tinnitus, a touch of Meniures disease and my hearing in one ear impaired 15-19% (they said after testing) due to high frequency deafness caused by the ineffectiveness of the ear defenders issued during the early part of my career (the plastic plugs - remember them?). If it had been 20% or more, I would have received an on-going disability pension - hence the 19%! If your hearing deteriorates further to cross the 20% threshhold, then that is attributed to age and you cannot claim the DP once you have accepted the lump sum, but you can get free hearing aids, apparently (wow!). It may have changed now, but I had to claim through the War Pensions route, not the Industrial Injuries system.

It was worth the messing around. I can't remember the amount I received but it was better than a slap on the belly with a wet fish and that was in 1990. Inflation probably means that now it would be better than two slaps!
 
#8
I've got this as well in one ear although I'm sure I can hear it appearing in my other ear. I also suffer from occassional ear aches in the ear with tinnitus, does anyone else?
 
#9
Under the War Pensions scheme "If your condition is Noise-Induced Sensorineural Hearing Loss and your disablement is less than 20% we will not be able to pay you a pension or lump sum."

Leaflet 10 – Notes about War Pension claims for deafness.

http://www.veterans-uk.info/pdfs/publications/va_leaflets/valeaflet10.pdf

As stated above this applies to the WAR PENSION scheme
 

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#10
I got mys first Tinitus on a familiarisation flight at Shornecliffe before we had even fired any live ammo. Its been getting worse but what fgalled was being refused a hearing test at my discharge medical despite being issue amplivox on a biff chit as I had been sick to get it. NI didnt help with all the helo flights.
I shall probably see what happens if I get the next job as there is normally a hearing test involved. I was warned at my last one about high end loss in my left ear. Oddly enough what spurred me to getting the cans on a chit was the publishing on Pt 1s in 88 about NIHL and how CO's were to do something to reduce it.
I blagged a radio hand set for the ecm we had but was jumped on as the patrol commander wanted us to use head sets. FFS its not as if Patrick was fooled by it!
 

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#11
Sometimes I think my mobile is ringing, its almost worth me leaving it on vibrate only as I struggle to hear it. I also often dont need music (walkman) as I have my own tunes in stereo courtesy of the tinnitus!
 
#12
I got mys first Tinitus on a familiarisation flight at Shornecliffe before we had even fired any live ammo. Its been getting worse but what fgalled was being refused a hearing test at my discharge medical despite being issue amplivox on a biff chit as I had been sick to get it. NI didnt help with all the helo flights.
I shall probably see what happens if I get the next job as there is normally a hearing test involved. I was warned at my last one about high end loss in my left ear. Oddly enough what spurred me to getting the cans on a chit was the publishing on Pt 1s in 88 about NIHL and how CO's were to do something to reduce it.
I blagged a radio hand set for the ecm we had but was jumped on as the patrol commander wanted us to use head sets. FFS its not as if Patrick was fooled by it!
Yeh, I've got some high pitched loss in my right ear. It was due to the bloody Clansman headgear we had in the 90's. They say that low level noise takes out the long hairs in your ears that affect the high pitched hearing, short hairs affect the low.
 
#13
Ive had this for years and never really thought about doing anything about it. To many loud bangs in the 80's and 90's with only little foamy yellow things for protection, or in some cases nothing at all. I now suffer from a constant high pitch ringing in my left ear and occasional ringing in the right one. Suffer odd bouts of dizziness and sometimes low pitched noise and tone sounds over amplified.

Then again, it could be down to the amount of times Ive been punched in the heed.
 
#14
Sometimes I think my mobile is ringing, its almost worth me leaving it on vibrate only as I struggle to hear it. I also often dont need music (walkman) as I have my own tunes in stereo courtesy of the tinnitus!
Mine is especially wonderful at night when it's quiet, lovely ringing for hours!
 
#15
Under the War Pensions scheme "If your condition is Noise-Induced Sensorineural Hearing Loss and your disablement is less than 20% we will not be able to pay you a pension or lump sum."

Leaflet 10 – Notes about War Pension claims for deafness.

http://www.veterans-uk.info/pdfs/publications/va_leaflets/valeaflet10.pdf

As stated above this applies to the WAR PENSION scheme
Obviously they must have changed the policy. It did seem at the time that it was very subjective and depended on the Board's recommendation rather than meeting specific numerical criteria. In fact, I don't remember hearing or reading anything about the percentage limits until I after received the payment, when the accompanying literature said 15%-19% lump sum, 20%+ was a disabiltiy pension. Maybe it was linked to the fact it could be directly attributed to the ineffective ear defenders issued before the Amplivox arrived on the scene. They were obviously inundated with claims and have decided to pull the plug (pardon the pun). Maybe I was just lucky!
 

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#16
That may depend upon if your claim was made whilst in service or at the end of rather than years down the road!
 
#17
That may depend upon if your claim was made whilst in service or at the end of rather than years down the road!
I have just checked what paperwork I can find easily and the claim was being finalised in Jan 1991. I left in Apr 1990, so I must have started the process within a few months of leaving the Service. Also, on reading the papers, it looks like the Meniere's disease tipped it over the border from the hearing loss on its own. The tinitus was regarded as "part and parcel of bilateral sensori-neural hearing loss (noise induced) and vertigo is part and parcel of of Meniere's disease and any disablement from them is included in the assessment"

I had the first vertigo attack (3 days of being pissed without alcohol) whilst still serving and had to go to the MO so it was on my records. I suppose if I hadn't have done that, it would have been hearing loss only and I wouldn't have got anything. Maybe the lesson is get it on your records whilst you are still serving.
 

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#19
Nice to know people can still claim for tinnitus, I thought the MOD had stopped paying out.
Not sure that they can, failure to do a hearing test on discharge is the MoD's responsibility and means it is harder for them to contest.
Hearing like all body parts deteriorates with age however failing a hearing test in later life will often highlight what you just thought was age catching up on you as unreasonable deterioration due to service. My entire service was spent in the pink plastic plug era so getting amplivox on issue was only reluctantly sanctioned after getting a biff chit from the RMO. I was advised to start wearing them immediately for all noisy work including helicopter flights and had to carry the biff chit until discharge!
oddly enough I spent a lot of my last 6 months either doing ecm/comms or setting up ops rooms and their kit or doing LO to various qrfs/arfs around the province.
I'm pretty sure that tinnitus is a medically recognised condition and results from Noise Induced Hearing Loss. When the CO's started ading it to part one orders it pretty much made it simple to ensure that you were getting something for it. Nowadays you would need to have special reason not to have worn the inside ear kit thats on issue!
 

ugly

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#20
Not sure that they can, failure to do a hearing test on discharge is the MoD's responsibility and means it is harder for them to contest.
Hearing like all body parts deteriorates with age however failing a hearing test in later life will often highlight what you just thought was age catching up on you as unreasonable deterioration due to service. My entire service was spent in the pink plastic plug era so getting amplivox on issue was only reluctantly sanctioned after getting a biff chit from the RMO. I was advised to start wearing them immediately for all noisy work including helicopter flights and had to carry the biff chit until discharge!
oddly enough I spent a lot of my last 6 months either doing ecm/comms or setting up ops rooms and their kit or doing LO to various qrfs/arfs around the province.
I'm pretty sure that tinnitus is a medically recognised condition and results from Noise Induced Hearing Loss. When the CO's started ading it to part one orders it pretty much made it simple to ensure that you were getting something for it. Nowadays you would need to have special reason not to have worn the inside ear kit thats on issue!
That said in the case of an ied blast etc it would/should all get taken into account. Its those of us without the visible external injuries that get stiffed as per usual, PTSD, Deafness.
 

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